Ngl, it takes a lot of restraint. Lemmy’s anarchists are some of the most willfully uneducated people I’ve ever seen, and I’ve gotten along with some cool ancoms not on here. And their libs are just straight up “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” stereotypes. And it’s really sickening how they view women as naturally inferior. IMO, if lemmy.ml were taken down we would lose nothing on consequence. They need to take their garbage back to reddit, and the whole project should be refocused around growing a socialist network.
As it stands, lemmy.ml’s site culture is a seed which, if planted into a larger population, will only become more disgusting.
Again, I’m an admin of lemmy.ml so I’m probably not impartial on this, but as a Marxist-Leninist, I think Lemmy.ml allowing both MLs and non MLs is helpful in the sense that ML opinions are exposed to other people. As mentioned on this thread and elsewhere, we’re never going to convince people to join our side if we’re in our own echo chambers. If we shut down Lemmy.ml or kicked out all the non MLs, all that will happen is that the non MLs will regroup into their own echo chambers and lose the opportunity to be exposed to differing opinions.
I totally understand if constantly debating against people who really don’t like your politics is tiring and not something you want to to, though. Which is why I think Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are complementary and not anthetical. You can stay on Lemmygrad, which is a ML only space if you only like the company of other MLs, or you can go to Lemmy.ml if you want to interact with non MLs with a all the trappings that come with that.
Also: Instance blocking for individual users is also in the dev queue, which will allow individual users in the future to stop seeing stuff from other instances they don’t want to see without requiring defederation instance wide.
Listen, my guy, we’re not getting paid to convert libs to commies. Nutomic and Dess are getting paid, but the rest of us don’t owe anything to anyone. If they’re being toxic assholes and the community would rather be far away from them, then they have every right to disconnect with that.
I’m not advocating lemmygrad defederation. But I do think that expecting them to spin their wheels going up against the brick wall that is lemmy libs is pretty unethical. This pretty much mirrors my argument with Povoq about his permissiveness of loli on the fediverse and his position that defederating from a loli-posting instance for your users’ mental health is a negative thing, which is most of the reason I don’t talk to him anymore.
I mean, no one is saying you have to try and convert them, or that you even have to interact with them or read what they have to say. You’re entirely free to block them and not have to see them anymore, I don’t want anyone getting shamed for doing that.
Even at the expense of stifling growth of platform among any other ideology, handicapping creators to serve a single saturated community, when their work could’ve been adopted by millions.
Aw man, as a Lemmy.ml admin, I really like it when you guys go over there with that based energy and set the record straight!
Ngl, it takes a lot of restraint. Lemmy’s anarchists are some of the most willfully uneducated people I’ve ever seen, and I’ve gotten along with some cool ancoms not on here. And their libs are just straight up “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” stereotypes. And it’s really sickening how they view women as naturally inferior. IMO, if lemmy.ml were taken down we would lose nothing on consequence. They need to take their garbage back to reddit, and the whole project should be refocused around growing a socialist network.
As it stands, lemmy.ml’s site culture is a seed which, if planted into a larger population, will only become more disgusting.
Again, I’m an admin of lemmy.ml so I’m probably not impartial on this, but as a Marxist-Leninist, I think Lemmy.ml allowing both MLs and non MLs is helpful in the sense that ML opinions are exposed to other people. As mentioned on this thread and elsewhere, we’re never going to convince people to join our side if we’re in our own echo chambers. If we shut down Lemmy.ml or kicked out all the non MLs, all that will happen is that the non MLs will regroup into their own echo chambers and lose the opportunity to be exposed to differing opinions.
I totally understand if constantly debating against people who really don’t like your politics is tiring and not something you want to to, though. Which is why I think Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are complementary and not anthetical. You can stay on Lemmygrad, which is a ML only space if you only like the company of other MLs, or you can go to Lemmy.ml if you want to interact with non MLs with a all the trappings that come with that.
Also: Instance blocking for individual users is also in the dev queue, which will allow individual users in the future to stop seeing stuff from other instances they don’t want to see without requiring defederation instance wide.
Listen, my guy, we’re not getting paid to convert libs to commies. Nutomic and Dess are getting paid, but the rest of us don’t owe anything to anyone. If they’re being toxic assholes and the community would rather be far away from them, then they have every right to disconnect with that.
I’m not advocating lemmygrad defederation. But I do think that expecting them to spin their wheels going up against the brick wall that is lemmy libs is pretty unethical. This pretty much mirrors my argument with Povoq about his permissiveness of loli on the fediverse and his position that defederating from a loli-posting instance for your users’ mental health is a negative thing, which is most of the reason I don’t talk to him anymore.
I mean, no one is saying you have to try and convert them, or that you even have to interact with them or read what they have to say. You’re entirely free to block them and not have to see them anymore, I don’t want anyone getting shamed for doing that.
I’m glad you guys made lemmy open source and federated
Even at the expense of stifling growth of platform among any other ideology, handicapping creators to serve a single saturated community, when their work could’ve been adopted by millions.
you ask why we are on lemmy, but when we talk about lemmy, you are on lemmygrad
curious