I was doing some “algorithm surfing” (i.e. VPN+private tab+click enough youtube videos on a topic=temporarily immersed in someone else’s rabbit hole). In a patriotism rabbit hole, I found this video about a fearless teenager defending himself and his father against police misconduct with knowledge of Utah law.

Question: how can a layperson possibly know that much about the law to rival a cop’s situational power like that?

I’m already familiar with shutting up (I vaguely remember there being a way funnier video but I can’t find it)

but I think not shutting up, and instead sheer CYA, was instrumental to that kid and his dad winning the counterlawsuit. And being friendly has turned a speeding ticket into a warning for me (anecdotal evidence)… once…

Apologies if this question is too American. Also please don’t hit me with another All Cops Are Benzene or something – I could use a usable answer ^ .^

  • chlorokenEnglish
    191·
    1 month ago

    I can speak from direct experience here.

    You do not argue law with police in the United States. Period. Any example of it working out is overshadowed by hundreds of deaths. Even giving off the impression you’re some kind of sovereign citizen is a good way to get killed.

    You quite literally — and this is triple true if you’re a POC — must submit to them and pay a lawyer to interact with the Corrections Department and the courts. Doing anything other than this, e.g., resisting arrest, arguing law, is a surefire way to get hurt or killed.

    The police in the United States are not there to help, you should never talk to them. This includes arguing law.

    • refalo@programming.dev
      5·
      1 month ago

      And never open your front door for any reason. If the cops or anyone else really needed you that bad, they’d be busting the door down anyway and you’re already fucked six ways to Sunday.

      Also cameras. Lots of them. Different brands. Offline recording. INSIDE AND OUT. Ask me how I know.