I have always wanted to ask such questions, as such projects come from a different kind of crowd, internet anarchists with a free world utopia in mind. Since these projects are also used by Chinese netizens, what do people think about this?
While Tor Project was DARPA made, many people benefit from it. Same goes for internet preservation projects, since internet is largely a creation of West.
I seek the perspective of native mainlanders and Chinese born here importantly, because I have not seen this being discussed anywhere.
Edit: I hate how armchair westerners have an issue with letting this topic be discussed calmly.
Fun fact, both Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are accessible in all parts of China.
http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=lemmy.ml
http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=lemmygrad.ml
As are most or all of the other major Lemmy instances.
The project homepage too: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=join-lemmy.org
Still doesn’t change my point that mainlanders are not likely to use lemmy and that they would get in trouble for asking this on weibo and the like
Dunning Kruger, fellowman. You should know reality instead of whatever Reddit told you this week. I know the Reddit talking points come from a place of ignorance, which is why I asked actually informed people here. If you do not know, just stop derailing this thread I made.
it’s not dunning kruger to point out the truth just because it’s not what you wanted to hear doesn’t it make it reddit talking points if you really want to delude yourself to thinking the ccp would support tools like tor and archive.org then go ahead you’re welcome to go to mainland China and report back to me the result of you trying to use those tools and settle this once and for all
Or ask me. I live in China. I can tell you if a given site is blocked or not at this moment in time. (The list of blocked sites changes over time, naturally.)
If they don’t believe me why not let them experience it firsthand just from a quick search one can find blogposts from the tor dev team about it being blocked and research papers on how exactly the great firewall does this and the workarounds they’ve come up for it.
Because that doesn’t tell you anything about what’s blocked or unblocked NOW, duh!
It’s obviously blocked now and you know very well why it’s blocked
You realize you’re vociferously agreeing with me, right? Like, dude, my point was “if people want to know FOR CERTAIN what’s blocked in China they can just ask someone living in China to test for them.”
But hey, go ahead and violently agree with me, you batshit insane twit.