• DessalinesA
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    52 years ago

    Life has been back to normal in China since april 2020.

    • @ttmrichter
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      22 years ago

      That’s a bit of an exaggeration. After the Great Wuhan Lockdown ended the city was badly wounded. (I actually thought it would take a decade to recover, it looked so bad.) Fewer than a third of businesses (small or large both) were open. Shopping plazas were death zones. Most restaurants were closed. It was like someone shivved Wuhan straight in a lung.

      A combination of factors (including Wuhan’s “FUCK COVID-19!” spirit) brought most of this back. The government held a “conference call” (read: net.delivered speech) that told major employers if they laid off people they would find themselves nationalized. (This I heard from my boss who was in the conference call.) There was also the freeze on all economic activity during the lockdown: no rent to be paid, mortgages were frozen, etc. (This I saw with our own mortgage here.) All of this (and more) worked together to bring the city back from the brink. Relative normalcy started to return by … call it June. (Local) schools opening in Mid-September (a bit late) was another sign of normalcy’s return. But it wasn’t until universities re-opened in early 2021, after Spring Festival, that something approaching full normalcy was restored.

      Since then it’s been pretty much life as normal here in Wuhan, aside from a brief period of contact tracing, plus a city district being closed down, for a few weeks in August of 2021 because of a Delta outbreak. (They shut down a district and clamped down contact tracing because of 12 cases.)

    • @a_Ha
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      2 years ago

      Well, mostly…
      i am not in China still I read about it…
      @normalwhat@lemmy.ml here is
      a one 2 comment account … challenging your statement 😆
      Topic is sensitive at the moment and people seems stressed about it.

      many thanks for your work

      Edit : the new account has a new comments.

      • @ttmrichter
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        32 years ago

        Personally the only thing I’m stressed about is the number of people who a) aren’t boots on the ground, and b) are ignoring reports from boots on the ground who loudly proclaim utter bullshit about China.

        Not just about COVID-19 either.

        • @a_Ha
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          12 years ago

          Desinformation especially during pandemic times is very bad.
          Complete and balanced information is quite impossible.
          My boots are most of the day time on a ground that’s very far from China.
          Omicron is stress now for most of the planet … as far as i can see.

      • @ttmrichter
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        12 years ago

        I am a person in China. China is for the most part back to normal. Xi’an was a clusterfuck, yes, but you are deliberately reaching for the worst incident since the outbreak, one that was badly managed at that, and asserting this is the norm across the country.

        Not to put too fine a point on this, you’re full of shit. Not least of which because “entire cities were put into hotels” makes no sense at any cognitive level and makes anybody who uses that clause look like he’s putting on clown makeup and dancing a jig.

        Other cities had outbreaks that didn’t get as fucked-up as Xi’an did. Wuhan had a Delta outbreak in August 2021 that involved one neighbourhood getting quarantined and the rest of the city tested (twice, 100% of the populace, inside of two weeks!) and contact tracing reasserted for about a month. An outbreak of a dozen people total.

        Shenzhen has been managed even better than Wuhan, having been hit with “outbreaks” in the single digits and neighbourhoods being clamped down and tested while the rest of the city had life as usual.

        The overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens are living an almost normal life. The only signs of abnormality are the masks people still have to wear in things like public transit and other locales where large number of peoples gather. And if you know in which nooks and crannies to peer you’ll find a few economic sectors that are in deep shit. (In Wuhan tourism took a beating and KTV joints are almost all out of business. Cinemas were also in trouble, but they’ve made a recovery recently.)

        So, voice from China here. Life is almost back to normal for most people in most cities in the country.

          • @ttmrichter
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            12 years ago

            There are always shops closed, even in normal times. There are always economic sectors that are in shit, even in normal times. Are there a few more now than before? Sure. I fucking said that. So … uh … maybe read “walls” of text (for comprehension, I mean, not … whatever reason you pretended to “read” it) and you’ll note “almost” features before “back to normal” and other such phrases.

            You know what “almost” means, right Sparky? Good boy. Have a cookie.

            And none of this makes up for the absolutely totally fucking idiotic thing you put out in your futile attempt to sound like you know what you’re talking about:

            In 2021 entire cities were put into hotels to slow the spread.

            This is just such a fucking idiotic sentence to write that even someone who isn’t in China would be embarrassed to type those words. Someone who claims to be in China typing them is just so funny it’s better than listening to politicians claim to be honest.

            Other cities had outbreaks.

            Keep in mind that an “outbreak” here (since I don’t believe for even a half-second that you’re in China) is “twelve” or, in extreme cases, “a hundred”.

            As opposed to the thousands of daily cases that are the norm in Europe and the Americas.

            Currently China’s “outbreaks” amount to a daily new case rate of 0.07 per million (as of January 22nd) compared to the world’s 415, Europe’s 1800, and North America’s 1350. A daily new case rate of 0.07 per million means on average, were the disease evenly spread over the country (protip: it’s nowhere near that), that Wuhan would have had one new case on the 22nd.

            To me, that 0.07 per million is “almost back to normal”.

            Now let’s address another piece of bullshit:

            … not to mention the outrageous xenophobia China is experiencing due to the governments blaming the virus on other countries …

            This right here convinces me you’re nowhere near the continent, not to mention inside China proper. I’m the whitest motherfucker that ever whited. Going back as far as records can go, there’s no hint of anything but white in my blood. Further, I tower over people here and I’m built like a brick shithouse. I look as 老外 as I can possibly look in this country.

            I haven’t experienced anything even mildly xenophobic at any point since January 23rd, 2020 (when the Great Wuhan Lockdown began). Zero people have given me shit for my nationality and/or ethnicity. When I overstayed my visa (because of a ridiculously stupid thing I did), the cops just asked me to get the paperwork started within 48 hours. People who know me and what country I’m from express concern for my family in Canada given just how fucked Canada is right now (by a combination of American politics infecting it from the south and general ineptness of the current milquetoast PM).

            NOT EVEN ONCE has my ethnicity nor my nationality (despite Canada now being the least popular western nation in China!) been commented upon in a negative way.

            Stop watching Faux News (or its even worse replacements) and stop pretending to be in China, jackass.

              • @ttmrichter
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                12 years ago

                Given your behaviour here, I suspect the reason has nothing to do with xenophobia but rather can be found within.