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Cake day: October 8th, 2021

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  • I am in a similar boat. I don’t have the chops I used to, but I have taught music and played in a lot of bands over the years. At several points in my life I had experiences that led me to believe that if I made music my job I would end up hating it! Currently I am not “doing anything with it” except for very slowly recording my songs. Home recording is something I have not delved into too much, but I would like to properly record some of my stuff because it means a lot to my friends and family. I would also very much like to be in a band again, but just for the fun of playing in a band. I am not at all interested in brand, image, promotion, or all of the other bullshit that is involved in the “music industry.” I do really miss having friends to just jam with and have “musical conversations.”

    My wife has something of a natural talent with music, but never really had the chance to explore it when she was younger. She is working really hard at learning guitar, and I really want to support her so she can have a good experience with music.


  • I see that the government also blocks more left and some right leaning sites

    Do you have any examples? I have not encountered any blocked sites other than porn. I visit many a far let site, and have never found anything blocked.

    I’ve heard there’s a problem with hidden cameras

    As far as I know, this is not unique to Korea, but it’s an ongoing battle here for sure. How prevalent they are is hard to say. Whenever they are discovered anywhere there is always a lot of news about it, which kind of adds to the hysteria in my opinion.


  • I’m not sure what you are concerned about in particular in the context of traveling to these places. I have lived in Korea for over 12 years, so I will share my two cents.

    In another comment someone has said this:

    Both countries have highly invasive laws and will demand access to many things.

    In all my time living here, I have never ever had the government “demand access” to my things, and I have never heard of this happening to anyone traveling here. In the times I visited China, however, ALL of my things were ALWAYS searched at the airport (plus telecommunication itself is just a fucking nightmare there). Even going to Japan I was always flagged for extra searches, but never Korea. I am not sure what they mean by “demand access” but I think they have overstated a bit, or don’t really know how it is here. If you commit crimes while you are here, then of course, like pretty much the rest of the world, you can expect to be interrogated, and depending on the nature of that crime, your stuff could get seized and searched (but it is not the case that any run-in with the cops will result in them cloning your hard drives or anything like that. There is a lot of red tape around that, so unless there is good reason to do so, no one will go through the trouble).

    Korea does not have great laws about privacy, and people are mostly ambivalent about it. The main “privacy-offending” thing about Korean digital culture is that your citizenID is linked to your online accounts (not all of course). So, if you have a blog on Naver, you can be anonymous to readers of that blog (as in you can use whatever handle you like), but if, for example, you are doing illegal things on that blog then the police can easily identify you. For a foreigner visiting here on tour, this is all irrelevant. If you register as an alien (for work or study etc.) then you may end up making accounts here, but you are not really obligated to…and it is not the case that ANYTHING you do online must be tracked by the Korean government or anything like that. I have blogs, gemlogs, phlogs etc. scattered all around the internet. The Korean government will in no way seek those out to surveil me, let alone try to control or censor what I do there. Their operation is just not that focused, and it is out of their jurisdiction anyway. It just doesn’t work like that. Of course, if you break laws here, then expect to be investigated. But there is no law saying you cannot have overseas accounts or whatever.

    It is not the case that everyone is constantly subjected to 1984-style surveillance and totalitarian oppression. If that is what you fear, then don’t go to China. As far as surveillance goes, I would say Austraila is actually worse (based on what I have gleaned from the news). Overall, the main concerns I have about privacy here are the same that apply everywhere: apps, services, operating systems slurping up as much of your data as possible and selling it etc. However, Korea has adopted GDPR-esque laws that require Korean companies to notify you when your data has been provided to a third party, or requested by the government. If you are just visiting, you probably don’t really have a reason to sign up with Korean service providers, and in some cases you will not be able to unless you have a visa (other than a tourist visa).

    If you are worried about your internet browsing being surveilled, don’t be (like I said, it is not much different from most other places in the world). Some sites are “blocked” by ISPs, mostly porn sites and North Korea propaganda sites, but this is nothing tor cannot circumvent. There is no “great firewall” like in China, and in fact, the blocked sites can all still be accessed by using a DNS provider other than the Korean ISP itself. But tor or a VPN is the easiest way. VPNs are not illegal, tor is not illegal. No one gives a shit and most people don’t even know what these are.

    There are CCTV cameras all over the place, but the vast majority of these are not involved in facial recognition or anything like that. There are some of those in place out in the wild, but they are actually pretty rare and controversial. To me, the main problem about privacy here is that people just don’t even think about it. So for example, when COVID first hit, the government was providing data to the public about where infected people went (not their identities but their movements). So there were cases where some wives found out their husbands were visiting brothels, etc. It was a weird lack of oversight that resulted from the general ambivalence about privacy here.

    I don’t know if this helps at all. If you are considering visiting here then I recommend that you do. Korea is a very interesting place, and usually people who visit kind of fall in love with it. As far as privacy is concerned, it is nothing like China at all. Although, I also recommend visiting China just because it is a fascinating place too! If there is anything in particular you are concerned about privacy-wise, let me know and maybe I can give you some perspective on it.












  • I agree! I think unschooling should first be allowed and the focus of educational policy should shift from providing an education to providing conditions for it to be a possibility for more people. That is a big ask, though, and I don’t have faith in the establishment working to disintegrate itself. I think a gradual development of federated grassroots “learning co-ops” is a better and more actionable immediate goal for people interested in a de-institutionalized education and society.


  • But who decides what to test and how? Standardized tests are hotly debated even in the realm of institutionalized education. In the world of un- or de-schooling they are even more problematic and inappropriate. Parents and children end up remaining accountable to the state in some capacity, and whatever aims and values it sanctions impose arbitrary conditions on the actual process and activities would-be unschoolers pursue. In other words, it is contradictory to a truly self-determined experimental learning process. You end up with homeschooling 2.0 … I can say more abiut this but I have to run!