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    The source is some random site that adds more than a trillion to the usual estimate because of the “informal economy”. So they claim Russia has a trillion dollar corruption/black market lol.

    I understand critical support for Russia, but all this uncritical support with zero critical thinking is lame.

    Russia is a fascist reactionary dictatorship. Just because they oppose the US doesn’t mean everything else they do is good as well.

    Russian now spends a whole 40% of state expenditure on security and the armed forces. That’s not a good sign for them.

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        Isn’t fascism a component of capitalist societies that gets turbo charged when capital finds itself in a state of crises? Sort of a self defense mechanism to keep the “left” from actually making gains among the population?

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        Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole All-Russia “Young Army” National Military Patriotic Social Movement Association, massive internal security rosgvardia, claiming other countries belong to them reminds me of Lebensraum etc.

        • All countries in Europe have historical revisionism in school and most of them aren’t fascist (yet). The government may have started implying that Ukraine should have remained part of Russia after the escalation in 2022, but in practice, it was very determined for Ukraine to remain intact (including a semi-autonomous Donbass) up until that point, naively believing that Germany and others would actually pressure Ukraine to uphold Minsk 1 and 2. As for nationalism, there are plenty of non-fascist countries with a very nationalistic population

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          Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole pledge of alleigence and JROTC, massive internal security from the NSA, claiming land belongs to them through Manifest Destiny reminds me of Lebensraum etc.

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            Can be true for both. I find it hard to argue that Russia is less fascist than the US

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              I don’t necessarily think it is less fascist. I just don’t think its more fascist than the US

              The thing is i wouldn’t necessarily use that as the most descriptive term in either case. When applied to the Russian Federation, its really just something libs say because they’re the designated enemy

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              Russia is definitely less fascist than the US. Even just the way the US has and continues to treat indigenous and black people makes the US pretty damn fascist.

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      Russia is a fascist reactionary dictatorship

      People will now resort to label any country that opposes the west as a dictatorship (and not in the marxist sense), even if it openly celebrates bourgeois elections every 6 years.

      Inb4 “but they are rigged!!1!”

      So are they everywhere else, either by limiting by design the choices (see: USA) or by limiting the powers that democracy grants to the people. You seem to be Swedish: you cannot even choose your own head of state.

      Edit: my country constantly suffers from scandals every election in which governing parties shove thousands of fake votes by mail into the system and no one has ever called it a dictatorship simply because it is part of The West™.

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          Ad scandinavicum: point out your opponent’s Swedish/Norwegian/Danish nationality to immediately obliterate them.

          Jokes aside: Scandinavians are overall nice fellas but damn it, they are also not only some of the people most pleased with bourgeois order that I know of, but also completely politically illiterate. Just search on Quora for people asking if Norway, Sweden or Denmark should keep their monarchies and look at their defenses to keep them around on the replies.

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              Trade unions are good insofar as they’re the levers of collective action, but they’re not really anti-imperialist or even socialist, since their primary concern is their membership.

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      Regardless of what the article says, it is well known that GDP (even per capita PPP) is a really shitty measure of a country’s productive capabilities or resources.

      Russian now spends a whole 40% of state expenditure on security and the armed forces. That’s not a good sign for them.

      I disagree, of course Russia is spending a ton on the war and yea no shit the war is hurting Russia and Russians but state spending doesn’t mean much. Russia can produce its own military gear. India meanwhile despite having double the Russia’s GDP PPP is struggling to indegenize its military equipment.

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        We should be better than the people who swallow western propoganda without every questioning it. Believing everything with lousy sources that is pro Russia just makes you look silly and contrarian. Critical, not uncritical support.

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      Even critical support to Russia/China/Israel/whatever doesn’t survive an honest inspection.

      The USA has a shitload of bad qualities. Supporting the same qualities just for the sake of anti-USA sentiment doesn’t reduce them from the world.