That pedos shouldn’t be subject to extra-legal punishments. Think being lynched and shit. I also don’t think they should be getting their own special cases in the law beyond those with a clear purpose of preventing reoffending.
Don’t get me wrong, I think they are pure scum.
But things we allow on the basis of the accused being a pedo or terrorist have a habit of spilling over and affecting the general population. A lot of bad laws have made it onto books by blaming these two groups, for example.
I think the worst thing we do is basically shut down non-harmful outs.
We attack therapists who don’t outright vilify non-offending pedos, without considering the fact that said pedos come to them because they don’t want to offend, don’t want to hurt.
If these people don’t have harmless outs, they will instead turn to harmful outs and covering up their crimes.
Depends what terminology you use. Officially, pedophile means sexually interested in prepubescent children, with a second term, ephebephile, for those with sexual interest in teenagers, but in general usage, ‘pedophile’ usually covers all sexual interest in minors.
So using the official definition you’re correct, as most cases involve teenagers, but most people will just call them pedophiles anyway.
For clarity’s sake, I’ve been using the term pedo in the general sense (all people attracted to minors).
An egregious crime should have an egregious sentence but only in accordance with a fair due process. I also feel like far right groups are packing gunpowder in the barrel of the musket with hate for pedophilia (an easy thing for anyone to hate) and are planning to use it to invoke violence on people with fabricated evidence against them. It’s becoming a dangerous powder keg
Yup. If we recognize that homophilia and homosexuality isn’t a choice then we also have to recognize that pedophilia isn’t a choice. Doing something towards people that cannot consent (like children) is already illegal, and no further laws are needed.
Conversely, if we treat pedophilia as a mental disorder that’s basically ammunition for people to claim homophilia is a mental disorder. That is something one has to think about before making such claims.
Now, it shouldn’t be difficult to not harm others with your romantic or sexual attraction. It really should not be difficult not to sexually assault someone or coerce someone. That’s just part of being a halfway decent person.
That pedos shouldn’t be subject to extra-legal punishments. Think being lynched and shit. I also don’t think they should be getting their own special cases in the law beyond those with a clear purpose of preventing reoffending.
Don’t get me wrong, I think they are pure scum.
But things we allow on the basis of the accused being a pedo or terrorist have a habit of spilling over and affecting the general population. A lot of bad laws have made it onto books by blaming these two groups, for example.
You can’t even classify or discuss pedophilia as a sexual disorder and not an intentional decision without sounding like a pedophile.
I think the worst thing we do is basically shut down non-harmful outs.
We attack therapists who don’t outright vilify non-offending pedos, without considering the fact that said pedos come to them because they don’t want to offend, don’t want to hurt.
If these people don’t have harmless outs, they will instead turn to harmful outs and covering up their crimes.
Wasn’t it that studies show that in most child abuse cases the abuser is not a pedophile?
Depends what terminology you use. Officially, pedophile means sexually interested in prepubescent children, with a second term, ephebephile, for those with sexual interest in teenagers, but in general usage, ‘pedophile’ usually covers all sexual interest in minors.
So using the official definition you’re correct, as most cases involve teenagers, but most people will just call them pedophiles anyway.
For clarity’s sake, I’ve been using the term pedo in the general sense (all people attracted to minors).
“Conservatives” hate disorder research, because they are most of them.
Yeah, it seems like people just lose all reasoning when that’s the subject of the argument.
An egregious crime should have an egregious sentence but only in accordance with a fair due process. I also feel like far right groups are packing gunpowder in the barrel of the musket with hate for pedophilia (an easy thing for anyone to hate) and are planning to use it to invoke violence on people with fabricated evidence against them. It’s becoming a dangerous powder keg
Absolutely. As for your second point, they do this with LGBT+ groups all the time, trying to tie them to pedophilia to get the FUD going.
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Yup. If we recognize that homophilia and homosexuality isn’t a choice then we also have to recognize that pedophilia isn’t a choice. Doing something towards people that cannot consent (like children) is already illegal, and no further laws are needed.
Conversely, if we treat pedophilia as a mental disorder that’s basically ammunition for people to claim homophilia is a mental disorder. That is something one has to think about before making such claims.
Now, it shouldn’t be difficult to not harm others with your romantic or sexual attraction. It really should not be difficult not to sexually assault someone or coerce someone. That’s just part of being a halfway decent person.
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It’s possible to think both “these people deserve to have their fingernails removed” and “a just society cannot inflict cruel punishment”