“The Slavic peoples, on the contrary, are not destined for their own life. They know this, and we do not have to convince them that they can do it too. We created the Baltic countries and Ukraine in 1918”

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      Germany did not created Ukraine, but they had serious investment there in 1918 as they were losing the war, in supporting antisoviet forces and creating bourgeoisie Ukraine hostile to RSFSR, but ultimately they crumbled too fast and Poland replaced them in this effort for the next two years. Also Germans, as in Austrians, did supported creation of the modern ukrainian nationalism against Poles and Russians in decades prior.

      This is more to the point with Baltic countries, which arose from the never finished long and bloody colonisation by the Germans.

      So Hitler was of course as usual twisting things inside his asspull mixer, but there was longstanding german influence in both regions. Without which things would went smoother for the bolsheviks but i don’t think this ultimately changed much, Entente intervention was more substantial in both those areas.

      Also, iirc nazis and neonazis heavily propagated and overblown the viking version of Rus history.

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        Didn’t create Ukraine, but bred it into the hot mess it is now. Taking page from the US’s ops in Latin America.

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        You want an example of an unreliable narrator for your English class? There you go.

        No seriously. The concept of the unreliable narrator in fiction often goes over people’s heads. “How can the story itself be inaccurate to what actually happened in the plot of the story?” And autobiographies with massive emblishments and bullshit made up to impress the reader are often used as the most basic and obvious example and a prelude to the much more subtle and literary art of crafting an unreliable narrator for a story.

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      It seriously reads like a 15 year old edgy kid wrote it for a school assignment lol

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        Entire Mein Kampf is like this. Pretty embarassing book tbh. I read this once and asked myself “how that book could ever turn anyone into nazi”, and the obvious answer was “it did not, people claiming that were nazi even before reading”.

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          Didn’t he write it haphazardly in like a few months or something?

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            It’s more like lack of talent. Lenin for example, did wrote all his books except one in few months top each, and did heavy research for each one. Hitler just seethed in slammer and puked on paper.

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          It’s like the bible. Most Christians have never seriously read it, only heard cherry picked lines from their televangelist pastor. And if you actually did read it, you’d realize that it makes no sense and goes off the rails fast.

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            I used to think that, then I sat down and read the thing. A lot of it is objectively great ancient literature, on the level of Virgil’s Georgics or the Homeric hymns.

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        Key words: cede and occupied. The cultural and ethnical make up of the people inhabiting these territories did not appear out of thin air.

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          But were the creation of these superstructures not facilitated and masterminded by the Germans? And then, did Lithuanian and Ukrainian ultranationalists not collaborate with Nazi Germany? The only other option if those statements are false are that Lithuanians and Ukrainians are genetically inclined towards Nazism, which is false and nonsensical.

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            The only other option if those statements are false are that Lithuanians and Ukrainians are genetically inclined towards Nazism

            Not sure how that notion appears in what I’ve said.

            But were the creation of these superstructures not facilitated and masterminded by the Germans?

            Not necessarily from what I know of history. Russian Empire had plenty of issues with subjects and national questions.