not only Erdogan but some other leaders in Europe
Must be nice being Erdogan
He’s a dork and mostly everyone hate him. But he also have power and this force people to take him into serious account.
Kind of what I meant, yeah
| Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine
It was Feb 22. I remember it on the 22nd and so does Russia. Why does the western media keep saying the 24th over and over again. Repeat a lie or mistake often enough and everyone believes it?? The date may not seem important, but it’s a fine example of how people copy each other
It was Thursday February 24th at dawn that Putin declared an SMO and Russian forces crossed the border. You can literally go back eight months and look at posts from the day it happened.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67843
Like just look at the date of the announcement on the kremlin’s website. February 24. Why do you claim Russia remembers it as the 22nd? Weird thing to be hung up on that is very easily checked.
Russia said the 22nd and I remember the date, too. Not sure why the date matters, but for some reason, I think it might. OH! I think it has something to do with an anniversary of some sort - maybe something to do with an event in Donbass. Perhaps it was the 23 there and 22 here - half a world apart, so 12+ hours apart?
No I literally linked the actual kremlin website. You can see clearly that on the 24th at 6am Moscow time Putin gave an address as the Russian troops entered Ukraine. Russia did not say the 22nd. What you are misremembering, maybe, is that the 22nd is when Russia recognised the independent republic of Donetsk and signed a friendship treaty with them.
that may be it. thanks for clarifying that. but, that is almost the same as officially entering a war - an announcement of it. There are Russian channels I follow (one is RT) and I sometimes still hear the 22nd as the date on those videos. I suppose it is a petty point when thousands are dying and millions no longer have a country…and WW3 could break out.
yeah I don’t think the date matters, but wherever you’re following that says the 22nd is misinformed. As far as it being a war, there’s not really a difference between an SMO and a war aside from national legal considerations, like in regards to funding, level of mobilisation, and how much approval you need from the other members of state. That’s why, for instance, the west rarely classifies its engagements as war: that would require more oversight and approval in congress/parliament.
