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Please take the time to complete our survey. Your feedback is important.

Eighth Annual Survey!!! (Don’t worry, fediverse is an option for where you got the link from ;)

Wondering if you can take it? From the source…

"Most people fit tidily into one of these categories:

Woman/girl - all the time, solely, and completely (may be cisgender or transgender)

Man/boy - all the time, solely, and completely (may be cisgender or transgender)

This survey intends to collect information about everyone who DOESN’T fit into this system. Anyone who doesn’t feel like they fit into one of these two boxes is invited to participate. There are no geographical restrictions.

If you hesitate or struggle to place yourself into just one of the two boxes, or if you know for sure that these boxes were not made for you, please do continue!"

Please spread it! They don’t do any advertising so it’s entirely word of mouth, and last year there were over 20,000 responses!

I was about to make a self-deprecating remark about not knowing whether or not this applies to me because I can’t figure out if I’m binary trans or not, but I see someone is already here with “but what about the cisses!!!”, so…

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if it helps, you probably could take it since there is a questioning option you can check in addition to trans, trans man/boy/masc, and or trans woman/girl/fem (i dont remember the exact words used)

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@dengismceo
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i see the confusion but it could easily be argued that someone questioning whether or not they are binary would be experiencing gender (at least for the moment), outside of the binary. therefore, a questioning person may be eligible this year and ineligible the next

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exactly this!

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“Exclude”? Do you think you have to take every survey you stumble across? If the target audience for this one doesn’t include you, why are you so mad they don’t need your input?

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it is called “gender census” because it is a survey about identity in regards to gender. the survey identifies other forms of gender outside “man” or “woman” and the frequency of usage of certain terms. the purpose is to have actual data to point to about the way nonbinary indivduals indentify and how they prefer others to refer to them.

Back in 2013 I noticed that there was a lot of confusion about the language used by nonbinary people to describe themselves. This title was the best/most popular among gender non-conforming people, the real nonbinary pronoun was that, no one who is really genderqueer calls themself x… And I thought, no one is basing any of this on anything reliable, are they?

people who identify completely as men or women are excluded because they have nothing to do with the data being gathered. we already know that the majority of women in a group of 5,000 would use she/her/hers in english but how many genderqueer people in a group of 5,000 use she/her/hers? we know about certain sets of english pronouns but are there nonbinary people using terms that are uncommon? have terms that first showed up a few years ago now risen in usage?

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@dengismceo
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Shouldn’t it then be the “gender pronoun census” or something like that?

no because that wouldn’t encompass the scope of the survey. it also asks about how one describes one’s own identity in english (ex. agender) and titles (like “Dr.” or “Mrs.”)

the author says they don’t call it a nonbinary survey because they want to be as inclusive as possible (so that they receive responses from anyone who qualifies instead of people thinking they don’t simply because they don’t identify as “nonbinary”)

fascinatingly, the author of the survey seems to deal with a lot of cis women objecting to the survey, because this is included in the FAQ (formatting is copied, not mine):

I’m an adult human female!

Great! If you feel like you can honestly check the required checkbox at the beginning, then you are welcome to take part and your responses are valued.

Yes, I confirm that I don’t really fit into just one of the two boxes of “always, solely and completely a woman/girl” or “always, solely and completely a man/boy”.

A lot of you describe experiences of not identifying with your bodies, feeling like you don’t have any internal experience of gender and feeling negative emotions when people treat you like a woman, etc. These are stories that are very common in this survey, and this is a place for you to voice them if you would like to. …

If you stick to describing your own feelings and experiences and avoid making sweeping judgements or insulting me, your identities and titles and pronouns will be represented in survey results. This is because a lot of gender-critical and radical feminist women seem to experience gender in a way that isn’t fully described by the restrictive gender binary, and often in a way that is very similar to nonbinary people’s experiences. (Based on their submissions to this survey over several years, anyway.)

this goes back to why “gender survey” is a good name. there may be people who consider themselves “female” (for example) but don’t feel like a “woman” at all and instead think of themselves as totally genderless. they may never call themselves or think of themselves as transgender or nonbinary but as they do not experience gender as being “completely a woman”, they would qualify for the survey. i actually know more than one person irl to whom this applies.

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I know this might be trolling or bad faith, but I do feel the need to mention this for anyone who might be wondering…

the survey does include cis as an option. There are nonbinary people who identify as cis, or who fluctuates between cis and nb identities, or anything really. The census is really trying it’s hardest to get as many non binary people as they can to properly represent the diversity of gender outside of 100% always soley completely girl or boy.

So if there are people who think of themselves as sometimes, faintly, and/or partly a cis girl, you can take this census.

But also everything the other responder said. Historically it did say nonbinary census but they felt that the use of nonbinary was dissuading people from taking the census that should be taking it, namely people who use cis, ironically enough.

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@dengismceo
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Why exclude cis people in the first place?

people who experience gender as binary are simply not part of the group being examined. if you were collecting data on the number of people with green eyes who are left-handed, you wouldn’t want responses from people with brown eyes who are left-handed because they aren’t the group you’re looking into.

this survey already gets a ton of responses. if anyone could take it, the author would have a helluva lot more work to do

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sorry, in most internet interactions I’ve had people who say this

Someone will come and say “it’s not discrimination if it’s against a majority” and I disagree.

usually are coming from a bad faith argument. Gut instinct from being in communities that were destroyed because of people who would say stuff like this.

I saw others explaining very well your other points, but haven’t seen anyone link to the page so you can see past results! It’s posted on their Tumblr page @ gendercensus or on the website https://gendercensus.com/

As a note, the raw data is in a Google doc so keep that in mind.

Question, do you have any recommendation for a different survey name? It’s easy to dismiss, but the name was thoughtfully chosen and the new name did help to bring in and represent far more people.

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