Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home <3 In the time honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!
I promise I’ll work on Element soon uwu
Ripbozo hit a very high point on google last week when the queen died. You love to see it.
Have a good week everybody.
SHE DIED
o7
amazing
There’s daily anger at my work regarding rising prices. I’m raising autographs for a petition by the party and 40 people signed it already. Most of them asked me to keep them updated on further actions, saying they will absolutely join me and the party. Mental man.
unfathomably based, maybe something good will come out of this after all
I live on an island of NPCs. Someone come rescue me before I hear another melter cry about the queen to me.
Honestly though, that was pretty based what the Queen’s body did, just die like that
If only other imperialists could be so based 😪
I could probably help you with moving to Russia, but you probably won’t like it here either.
😪
I’m no longer listening the sweet call of suicidal ideation. I’m so sorry to all my haters but you’re gonna have to kill me yourselves like grown adults.
Based
Working on a better coping mechanism than “I’ll fucking kill myself then”. I’ve been told “I’ll fucking kill a [REDACTED]” will blow my cover as a normal person.
Based indeed. It’s very tough to get past
Gennady Zyuganov, head of the CPRF, has proclaimed his support for mobilization.
Haha, I’m in danger.
That’s rough brother. I don’t think I have any comforting words really. We all talk about bashing the fash on here, and many seem to be willing to do it, but the prospect of being dragged into actual war is always messed up.
I hope you stay safe. We will think about you of shit goes down.
Can someone give me a good summary as to why most ML hate Trotsky? I get the gist of it but since I read most of my theory in English I’m afraid I might miss some nuance in the criticism. And since the Dutch socialist subreddit is filled to the edge with Trotskyist, some sources might come in handy.
Here is some good lit on Trotsky and Trotskyists
Letters from Ho Chi Minh about Trots in China and Vietnam, uncle Ho throwing some straight shade: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/HoTrotskyism.pdf
Alexander Bittelman’s book on Trotsky (1937) https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/TrotTraitorwithCov.pdf
Tito’s write up on Trotskyism: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/TitoTrot.pdf
A fairly large collection of early soviet lit on Trotsky and Trotskyists, this is dense stuff but a good read if you wanna be an ultra mega super super nerd on the topic: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/AgainstTrotskyism.pdf
I don’t think it’s fair to say all MLs are like that. Mostly just the Stalin-leaning ones. Stalin and Trotsky were arch rivals and Trotsky was exiled pretty much as soon as Stalin came into power.
Trotsky and Lenin were arguably closer than Stalin and Lenin. However, throughout his life Lenin very much acknowledged their ideological differences and many of the Bolsheviks at some point or another had a “he’s never really been one of us”. Despite this though Trotsky was an important member and many of his writings became the official party ideological line on a large variety of matters.
Because Stalin won and Trotsky was exiled he just kinda got the right to claim his ideology as the “real” Marxism-Leninism while Trotskyists will go on and claim that they’re the real heirs to that ideology and both sides will accuse each other of revisionism lol. But Stalin was much more of a practical person than a writer. He was even occasionally teased by other members of the Bolsheviks for his lack of erudition. Not that he was dumb by any means. Just that he wasn’t nearly as steeped in theory as the rest of them. He was focused on getting shit done, not getting shit right
My personal view is that Trotsky definitely had a habit of straying pretty far from orthodox Marxism, but Marxism-Leninism is also differentiated from orthodox Marxism in the ways that it had to grapple with elements unique to Russia that the Western theoreticians didn’t have to face as much (e.g. the unique and critical role the peasants played in Russia). The history of the development of Marxism in Russia is basically a constant effort to adapt the theory to this landscape.
Sometimes the difference is really just in practice too. Like one major marker of Trotskyism is that he wanted to begin collectivization of farms early on (note that the party had briefly tried collectivism but had retreated with the NEP to allow some markets for a while) whereas the MLs around Stalin argued they should wait until the party was stronger. In fact this was one of the main issues at the core of the argument that eventually led to Trotsky being exiled. Funnily enough Stalin resumed collectivization efforts very soon after that
Problem with Trotsky was saying the right thing at the wrong time.
WARNING PDF LINK
Trotsky the Traitor by Alex Bittleman goes into some pretty damning stuff regarding Trotsky the person, and the Trotskyist cult surrounding him. edit: just realized comrade below has shared this already. It’s worth a read.
Another PDF:
Grover Furr’s article on Trotsky/ist’s collaboration with Germany and Japan against the USSR.
Thanks comrade.
A large, STATE OWNED BANK in Belgium, that got bailed out for billions in the 2008 crash, is now saying it will reconsider financing the French part of the country if the marxist party continues to grow there.
A state owned bank. Saying they will not listen to the democratic process of half the country. Because they are marxists.
There seems to be a general growing of resistance in the ruling class because we’re growing too hard.
At least you seem to be scaring them, which is hopefully a good thing
What the actual fuck? Is that legal?
Managed to make a complete fool out of myself when I snapped during a conversation on energy prices, Russia and communism at a bar with my sucdem father in law today lmao. I started actually yelling and slapping the table but I was just so done with his smugness saying I support a conservative voter base with my party (???). To the great amusement of the leftist bar owner and other far left crowd. Life in the west man.
Nancy Pelosi has announced she will visit Armenia to express “her support” to it. Make of that what you will.
Meanwhile, Ramzan Kadyrov suggested making mobilization a task for the regions, as opposed to a sweeping federal decision. This idea was officially endorsed by Aksyonov - head of Crimea. Technically such notions have a precedent - for example anti-COVID measures were offered to be regulated at regional level.
What a messy year.
I’m doing a roadtrip through Basque Country (both French and Spanish occupied parts) and boy do they love communism and leftist shit here lmao
A delegation from Russian Federation, headed by vice prime minister Overchuk is going to Armenia. Nancy Pelosi is also going to Armenia, at the same time.
Something’s fucky, as the children say.
God i hate the mcu 😐
It’s stalin Sunday 😎 And tomorrow it will be Mao monday 😎
