Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home <3 In the time honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!
I promise I’ll work on Element soon uwu
Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home <3 In the time honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!
I promise I’ll work on Element soon uwu
Can someone give me a good summary as to why most ML hate Trotsky? I get the gist of it but since I read most of my theory in English I’m afraid I might miss some nuance in the criticism. And since the Dutch socialist subreddit is filled to the edge with Trotskyist, some sources might come in handy.
Here is some good lit on Trotsky and Trotskyists
Letters from Ho Chi Minh about Trots in China and Vietnam, uncle Ho throwing some straight shade: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/HoTrotskyism.pdf
Alexander Bittelman’s book on Trotsky (1937) https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/TrotTraitorwithCov.pdf
Tito’s write up on Trotskyism: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/TitoTrot.pdf
A fairly large collection of early soviet lit on Trotsky and Trotskyists, this is dense stuff but a good read if you wanna be an ultra mega super super nerd on the topic: https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/AgainstTrotskyism.pdf
I don’t think it’s fair to say all MLs are like that. Mostly just the Stalin-leaning ones. Stalin and Trotsky were arch rivals and Trotsky was exiled pretty much as soon as Stalin came into power.
Trotsky and Lenin were arguably closer than Stalin and Lenin. However, throughout his life Lenin very much acknowledged their ideological differences and many of the Bolsheviks at some point or another had a “he’s never really been one of us”. Despite this though Trotsky was an important member and many of his writings became the official party ideological line on a large variety of matters.
Because Stalin won and Trotsky was exiled he just kinda got the right to claim his ideology as the “real” Marxism-Leninism while Trotskyists will go on and claim that they’re the real heirs to that ideology and both sides will accuse each other of revisionism lol. But Stalin was much more of a practical person than a writer. He was even occasionally teased by other members of the Bolsheviks for his lack of erudition. Not that he was dumb by any means. Just that he wasn’t nearly as steeped in theory as the rest of them. He was focused on getting shit done, not getting shit right
My personal view is that Trotsky definitely had a habit of straying pretty far from orthodox Marxism, but Marxism-Leninism is also differentiated from orthodox Marxism in the ways that it had to grapple with elements unique to Russia that the Western theoreticians didn’t have to face as much (e.g. the unique and critical role the peasants played in Russia). The history of the development of Marxism in Russia is basically a constant effort to adapt the theory to this landscape.
Sometimes the difference is really just in practice too. Like one major marker of Trotskyism is that he wanted to begin collectivization of farms early on (note that the party had briefly tried collectivism but had retreated with the NEP to allow some markets for a while) whereas the MLs around Stalin argued they should wait until the party was stronger. In fact this was one of the main issues at the core of the argument that eventually led to Trotsky being exiled. Funnily enough Stalin resumed collectivization efforts very soon after that
Problem with Trotsky was saying the right thing at the wrong time.
WARNING PDF LINK
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/parties/cpusa/anti-trotsky/Trotsky%2520the%2520Traitor%2520-%2520Bittleman.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjzx6iF-ZP6AhUDBzQIHZMxAh8QFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0bv1xE0cCKp8vm_oEmwkt_
Trotsky the Traitor by Alex Bittleman goes into some pretty damning stuff regarding Trotsky the person, and the Trotskyist cult surrounding him. edit: just realized comrade below has shared this already. It’s worth a read.
Another PDF:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/clogic/article/download/191550/188662/217137&ved=2ahUKEwjzx6iF-ZP6AhUDBzQIHZMxAh8QFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3t5pGV9iou1EmkM7hReMF4
Grover Furr’s article on Trotsky/ist’s collaboration with Germany and Japan against the USSR.
de-Googled links: here and here
Thanks comrade.