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I’d kill for a publicly owned cinema.
So we can bring back Morbius and watch it for 1 billionth time
HAIL the Morb!!!
who is morb?
Ye doth taketh the morb’s name in vain?
The Holy Bible MIV (Morbius International Version)
Morbianitians III
Ch 1
1 The Lord God Morbius did speaketh from the mountain top:
Be not afraid my child, 2 for I, thee quencher of thirst and deliverer of sins, am here to speak for your future. 3 Ye shall not speaketh my name in question or protest, for I am thee Lord your God and command your knowing respect. 4 Ye will obey Morbius, your God, for if ye do not comply, thee mighty and ever powerful Morb will appear and cast ye into the fires of heaven.
5 So spoketh the Lord. Praise him for his gloriousness in black, all thing through him.
This is far too good
What a horrible fate, he had to be a…worker!
This is astonishing. They think making business owners into workers is some kind of sick joke, and not literally one of the fundemantal points of the socialist project. Buddy, your grandpa lost ownership over his cinema because the CPC was against private ownership of production. Him becoming a worker afterward is the point. It’s also very telling that he framed moving from one class to another as some Orwellian nightmare. Oh no, now I have to actually work at my cinema instead of profit off others doing the work for me, how horrifying!
“The elite” turning into “the regular mass” is the worst nightmare for them indeed. Such injury to the petty bourgeois pride.
I think they need a reminder that there are far worse things that could happen to them. Truly, if you survive a working class revolution as a former member of the bourgeoisie and you’re not executed you really should be grateful. They don’t deserve mercy, we’re just kind enough to extend it sometimes.
I’ll tell you what a sick sense of humor is: grossly profiting from basic human necessities such as housing and healthcare when a poor worker needs them the most, and telling them that they’re free to literally die if they can’t pay. That’s fucking violent, shows absolute disdain for human life, and happens every day to millions under capitalism. Oh? You were let off the hook as a capitalist during one of the messiest socialist revolutions ever and given an easy as fuck job at the movie theater you used to own? Sick! In the good sense. Shows how entitled bourgeois are.
Lolwut? You expect charity or help when you’re drowning? Fucking pull yourself up by your bootstraps and swim harder. Fucking loser.
If this is true then it most likely happened before the cultural revolution (although there were areas that has less centralized control where land reform and redistribution did not occur after the 1950s).
The same happened to my family (except with a theatre instead of a cinema). You know what my great grandparents did? They happily handed over their property because they saw that the CPC were actually working to help the country, especially the poorest of the poor. My great-grandfather didn’t even get to work in that theatre. He became a lowly teamster in his old age. Instead of resenting the CPC they continued on with their lives and helped the poor whenever they could, oftentimes with CPC community organizations. They sent their only son hundreds of km away to study agriculture because that seemed like what the country needed most at the time. To be fair my great-grandparents had the privilege of being educated enough to understand what the CPC was trying to achieve.
That’s a great story, thanks for sharing.
That does make me wonder though, is it possible to own a little cinema in a socialist system, if you are the only worker there?
In socialist Poland there were no public cinemas, although we had quite a lot of petit bourgeoisie in general - peasants and artisans (all of them were organized or affiliated in more or less loose state organizations, but they remained owners of their MoP).
we had quite a lot of petit bourgeoisie in general…but they remained owners of their MoP.
Interesting, how did that turn out?
Passable i guess.
First, the reason. For peasants, it was simply impossible to collectivise them. Land issue was a burning wound for centuries, peasants would stand only for petty bourgeoise land reform, nothing else. For artisans, it was for simplicity case - state organisation of most functions performed by them was way too much hassle, and they weren’t very dangerous. Plus modernisation of society, urbanisation and progress of mechanisation and production reduced their numbers steadily (peasants too, especially in relative terms as always with the development).
How it went. Overall, both peasants and artisans joined the counterrevolution like good little petty bourgesoisie exactly as Lenin predicted and warned, but their strenght was not really impressive and not very deciding. Deciding was that very many workers joined the counterrevolution too, and then we had the standard practied hijacking protest US method.
Oh that’s is interesting actually
Not really, unless you’re the only one watching the films. It would be private property, and you’d be part of the petite bourgeoise.
What would need to change for it to be means of production specifically?
Movie theaters are different from factories and farms in that they don’t produce a physical product, rather it provides a service, in this case its entertainment or education, and as such owning one constitutes owning something that generates value through the entertainment it provides.
Ah, got it. Thank you for the explanation!
no problem, comrade
Wouldn’t it only be private property if you were asking for payment in exchange for showings?
If you own it and it produces some sort of value, it is private property, in this case the movie theater is a service, and as such produces value from entertainment.
So whether you charge or not, if you own it you own some form of value production. There will be costs associated with running such a service, electricity, maintenance etc. And if you pay and maintain it solely on your own then you are essentially giving away the service at no cost to others. But realistically when private ownership is involved, the petty bourgeoise will have an incentive to charge customers to pay for the maintenance.
How this would work in an ideal socialist society while allowing for the theater to be owned by an individual, I can’t say, as it is against the interest of the owner to give away his service for free since he is the one left to foot the bills.
That makes sense, the venue would have an outsized cost greater than the individual who owns it, that cost will be supplied by the greater society. They all pay for it, but one person controls it.
However, doesn’t this break down if the community democratically decides to give the individual the property to maintain, assuming the community can always vote to reclaim the property, it doesn’t seem as if this would be private property at this point. I could realistically imagine this scenario in a very small community.
Not gonna lie, the GPCR was a lot of fun sometimes.
I just realized you were talking about the great proletariat class revolution. I did a search before I realized and saw this 😂
I mean, G protein-coupled receptors can be fun too. Not as fun as the cultural revolution. But close.
The CPC now considers the Cultural Revolution to be its worst mistake by far, and one of the severest tragedies in Chinese history (§19ff.). Millions of innocents perished through brutal and indiscriminate vigilantism, thousands of China’s most brilliant intellectuals were wantonly accused and murdered, and it would take decades until people of similar caliber could heal the academic wounds struck by these senseless massacres. And now along comes this clown and complains about working as a cinema usher, to this day one of the cosiest and most stimulating jobs a person can have. I will never comprehend the liberal brain
I plan on doing some in depth reading about the cultural revolution. I can’t imagine living through that. Humanity has had lots of senseless killings.
my grand grand father was forced to clean trash after they took 11 house, 3 fields and 3 fish pounds so that guy is in no place to complain.
