To celebrate August 24 Vladimir Zelensky took to Instagram to upload a series of portraits of commanders born in post-Soviet Ukraine.
Unsurprisingly one serviceman’s image, alongside his full name and credentials, was pictured wearing a Nazi insignia of the 14th Waffen-SS Grenadier Division.
That unit of the SS recruited primarily Ukrainian collaborators, and has been accused of committing several massacres in Poland.
It’s absolutely hilarious how every time there’s a picture of Ukrainian soldier in the media they’re inevitably covered in nazi symbols. It’s almost as if this is this is the core ideology of the regime.
Source for this claim?
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Oh wait, what’s this word you trolls like to use, whataboutism was it?
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In 2014 the coup that overthrew the democratically elected government led to a shit tonne of nazis in prominent positions. Among those, for example, Arsen Avakov, one of the major funders of Azov before it became part of the state. He took over the Ministry of Internal Affairs, a ministry with executive power over:
National Guard of Ukraine
National Police of Ukraine
Special Tasks Patrol Police
State Border Guard Service of Ukraine
Ukrainian Sea Guard
State Emergency Service of Ukraine
State Migration Service of Ukraine
He appointed Vadym Troyan as his deputy minister, former deputy commander of Azov Batallion. Zelensky appointed him as Chief of Police for the Kyiv Oblast prior to this, a role directly appointed by Zelensky.
In their time inside this ministry Avakov and Troyan created the Special Tasks Patrol Police, creating 56 volunteer “special police” forces across the country. These were ALL populated by fascists. They took the various gangs of paramilitary fascist groups and officialised them into the state, much like Azov was officialised into the state. This was an expansion of the Azov project.
To understand why this is important you need to understand a little about history and what this mirrors. The Azov Batallion started out as volunteer group, much like the Nazi SS or Schutzstaffel. It was later officialised into the state upon the fascists taking power and then given vast access to state resources for its growth and expansion. It expanded from a small volunteer batallion into a “special police” force that covered the entire country, providing an organisational body that exists to perform terror and “special” operations. The creation of the Special Tasks Patrol Police was this expansion within the Ukrainian state. Einzatsgruppen, the wing of the SS specifically created for the purposes of mass murder, means “Task Forces” in German.
Every single one of these 56 batallions created by the Ukrainian government are loyal and deeply ideologically fascist forces.
This is just the story of what happened to one single position when the government was couped in 2014. Fascists got into many other positions taking similar actions and set the country on a path that can not be reversed. Even Zelensky himself says that the country will be “big Israel”, they are intending to copy a country that has been completely fascist for 50 years at least. They are openly stating their intent to be fascist when saying this.
The regime that US put in power after the coup has a lot of well documented connections with actual nazis. The fact that you continue to deny this basic fact says everything we need to know about you and your ideology.
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You keep pretending as if this is some hard to find information as opposed to well documented fact. The only people who are trying to downplays this are nazis and their sympathizers.
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The fact that you spend your whole time here trying to whitewash nazis says otherwise.
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Looks like your search engine has been fine-tuned to show you only such soldiers. I’ve seen plenty of both neo-Nazi and non-Nazi combatants in Ukraine and Russia.
I don’t search for these soldiers at all, I see them in western media articles about the war all the time.
As I said, fine-tuned.
As I said, I don’t search for this at all. Work on your reading comprehension.
You do know how search engines work nowadays, right?.. If you use a stock-market smartphone that you haven’t tinkered with (in terms of PSA), your fingerprint and most of the data is fed to the ‘system’ (ML optimizations mostly, to put it simply). You may use *UNIX/*BSD/Linux-like system, send all your traffic through a bunch of I2P/TOR/whatever nodes, sitting behind 7 proxies on some Pakistani server. You are still getting somewhat ‘optimized’ results for any query you put to whatever search engine (DDG, Brave, searX — doesn’t matter). Until you are completely, technically and socially cut off from the popular information ‘channels’, you are going to be influenced by the agenda you are targeted with by other parties (either manually or by some complex algo). And here you are, saying, quote: “…every time there’s a picture of Ukrainian soldier in the media they’re inevitably covered in nazi symbols…” Well, do you want me to show you the Ukrainian soldiers’ images w/o Nazi-like insignia? Or do you think it’s impossible? Change my mind.
P.S. Maybe, you should be way less “they are all Nazi!”, and be more objective on the matter. Just a friendly advice, pal.
This is literally the Instagram account of the freaking leader of the country. This isn’t “optimization” or “targeted.” If nazis aren’t so prevalent how can Zelensky’s official social media not avoid posting WAFFEN INSIGNIAS???
Easy. Politicians are sometimes dumb and uneducated. If you are not into SS insignia, you’d never think it is. The first thing that comes to my mind is some outdated French royal/noble family symbol. And I don’t recall Zelensky has a Master degree in European history or something.
The SERPs really are not this personalised. Social media and youtube on the other hand very much is but the SERPs are not except in the case of searches where it recognises the need to optimise based on local geographical location. You are very much overstating this with regards to search engines.
Let me elaborate my distrusts towards search engines…
Now, let’s presume you use a self-hosted SE. Maybe, you are an ex-Google employee who worked on their SE for years and who wrote a new SE. Call me a paranoiac, but in the world somewhat dominated by big tech and industry companies, I presume it’s possible to keep ‘unwanted’ content further away from certain groups or individuals. I mean, your SE still tries to find the results in the existing global infrastructure — is it possible SEs are given not the full picture with intent?..
P.S. Writing this, I understood I don’t really know what’s going on under the hood along the way. However, it doesn’t really change my initial point (before tech ‘details’) that the person I wasn’t agree with only wants to see what he wants to see (not the first time, BTW), completely ignoring others’ points of view.
Yes there is plenty of reason to distrust search engines.
But to extrapolate that into what is essentially an argument you are making that google is putting more ukrainian nazis in front of my friend over there is nonsense. Google and other western tech companies are all nato-aligned businesses that know their interests lie with exploitation of global resources and expanding the western means to achieve that. They know that the war hurts them and they actively take part in suppressing negative news and information to the contrary while promoting western nato-aligned content in support of it.
The real bubbles lie on social media. My information bubble on twitter will be vastly different to yours, my search results probably won’t.
None of this however changes the fact that you’ll find nazis throughout the Ukrainian military at all levels. To put in perspective the HUGE extent of support for nazi ideology in Ukraine you only need to look at this 2014 poll of support for Stepan Bandera, leader of the OUN who carried out the nazi holocaust within Ukraine during ww2. 31% of the population supported Bandera when this poll was taken, while 48% was negative to him largely residing in the Luhansk, Crimea and Donetsk regions who went into secessionism or civil war shortly after this poll was taken. Even if we ignore the fact that these three regions make up the majority of Bandera haters you can still consider the following - If there’s a photo of 3 soldiers, one of them is a nazi that supports Stepan Bandera. The likelihood is at minimum 31% in the entire population. And this completely disregards the fact that the military attracts ultranationalists.
I’ve already provided plenty of references in this thread. Go read them.
Do you want me to provide similar articles about the whole Europe being covered in brown? Then the USA? And Asian countries? And Russia, too? Will it prove those countries are neo-Nazi havens? Nope. There are far-right all over the world. The crisis only makes it worse. What you want to focus, however, is that Ukraine is a Nazi state with people there supporting Nazism. How many friends and relative do you have in Ukraine, BTW? Have they been marching under Nazi insignia since 2013-2014? I don’t think so. Do you want to know what I think? Ukraine has been going towards becoming a national state like Israel for years. You don’t need to be the smartest person in the world to get that. Ukraine has [far-]right paramilitary groups and actual army regiments, they are strong. But what’s more important, they are the vanguard, frontline and in the hearts. Imagine what, in the people’s eyes, those combatants were right about being an enemy to Russia. And looks like the government of Ukraine chose the lesser evil (from their perspective). Again, it’s not some Nazi state. But those warriors were right, and they are defending their country. Well, that’s the narrative for the Ukrainians at least. Again, you don’t see even a 10% of all the combatants. They’ve learned their lesson and stopped sending anti-OpSec information. And, it seems, neither you know plenty of them.
They went closer to being like the murderous occupiers of palestine? Very evil. Very fascist.
What kind of asinine argument is that.