I’ve not heard of it before but a problematic lemmy user who got banned multiple times for sinophobia and other bigotry/harassment has became a mod of a Political Compass Memes sub on there (they haven’t it’s a lemmy thing, my bad) and the posts on that sub are already rolling out the sinophobia.

This isn’t meant to be a brigade against one user or platform, it’s more I’m shocked that sub has being allowed given the abject shit takes and bigotry that meme sub reddit generates and I find that concern tracks when past problematic users are being made mods for it.

Or is that just another lemmy instance? Ngl it all gets a bit confusing for me trapped here on lemmygrad.

Edit: I think it’s a lemmy.perthchat sub not a beehaw sub, apologies for any confusion. Still PCM is a disgrace regardless and the fact there’s one connected to lemmy now is a bit 🤮

  • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
    26·
    2 years ago

    The reason people are talking about us on other instances is because we’re the most active one barring lemmy.ml, which was the original and became the one new users congregated to, period. Look at our stats on the side: 100 active users in the last week (active users have performed at least one action in the timespan), 175 over August so far.

    What does beehaw have? 19 users this week. Sopuli: 13. All the other instances are mostly dead.

    This is nothing compared to hexbear (a fork of lemmy) which has no public stats but 20k registered users. (but hexbear does not federate yet).

    We scare them. We’re vocal. We use federation how it’s meant to, to talk to other instances. They can’t match that because they don’t have the numbers.

    • 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
      18·
      2 years ago

      Ok let’s be fair here, even Hexbear users will tell you a lot of those accounts are Fed/wreckers or dead accounts. It’s still more active than any lemmy instance by far but there’s maybe 1k of those accounts actually being active at most. I was quite active over there before joining here from the GenZ migration. I still go there now but I like it here way more. I’m not shitting on Hexbear. It saved my sanity when ye old Chapo sub got banned from Reddit. I even donate to them. I just prefer the more communist focused content and China love over here.

      • Lenins2ndCat@lemmygrad.ml
        11·
        2 years ago

        There are 1500apx accounts actively commenting in a 14 day period on Hexbear. There are 9x more who are logging but not commenting, 1:9 participation to lurker ratio is a pretty typical distribution in most communities

        • 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
          8·
          2 years ago

          When I say “active” I did mean actually commenting and engaging. So the random number I pulled out my butt was not too terribly far off. I do tend to also brows individual coms and when going off the main page traffic drops pretty sharp and often it feels like a lot of coms are somewhat dead unless one of their posts randomly makes it to the main page. Although that doesn’t surprise me too much. A lot of what we go their for is just lefty news and stuff. If I wanted cat pictures or to talk about cooking or fermenting foods I’d just go to reddit or something.

          I do find it interesting how, despite the significant increase in overall traffic at Hexbear, both there and here has a similar trend of having a handful of users that tend to comment in just about every major thread. Which I think also gives the impression of a smaller user base when you see a small number of familiar commenters everywhere you look.

          • Lenins2ndCat@lemmygrad.ml
            11·
            2 years ago

            I do find it interesting how, despite the significant increase in overall traffic at Hexbear, both there and here has a similar trend of having a handful of users that tend to comment in just about every major thread.

            It’s not a new phenomenon. It’s pretty well understood and I’d definitely say subreddits and lemmy follow this rule, ultimately the only way forwards is massive growth to raise the pool of that that 1% and 9%.

            90-9-1 rule

    • comfy
      5·
      2 years ago

      Linking a relevant post I made (2 months old) for anyone curious about the popularity of various instances, including those that don’t federate.

      https://lemmy.ml/post/287918

    • Shaggy0291@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      2 years ago

      I recall that we had a discussion on here at one point before the GenZ migration about whether or not lemmygrad should resist growth for fear of the culture being hijacked. If I remember right, most people felt that growth was great provided it was organic and at a manageable rate. When the GenZ migration took off, I was personally concerned it may have been a little too much, too soon, but it seems that things have played out ideally for the time being. It clearly helped a lot that there was virtually no gap in the consciousness of the GenZ crowd and the existing community at the time, allowing for a mostly smooth switch for them to the ready made platform of Lemmygrad once they were given the boot. I can’t imagine a better outcome, honestly. By and large, we’ve succeeded in taking in membership in digestible chunks with relatively little trouble, well beyond my own expectations. I anticipated a greater need for mod oversight, but this need hasn’t materialised at all.

      As you highlighted, we’re currently the loudest and most active instance by miles, to the point where all federated instances are beginning to feel the influence as we crowd them out. Hopefully we can maintain this dominance and continue to hold up Lemmygrad as an oasis for people with our politics that find themselves increasingly ostracised and alienated from the reddit swill pit. In terms of a growth model, we honestly just need to kick back and watch as people with our politics are pushed out of conventional spaces. We’re ready and waiting for them. Hopefully we can keep riding this wave as smoothly as we’ve managed thus far, but I still won’t rule out caution when it comes to the need to foster a greater mod base. I’m currently keeping my eye open for anyone hoping to take on such responsibilities with the communities I made back in the day, particularly /c/documentaries. It’ll be nice to have the bases covered well in advance should there come a time when we grow to a level that requires more management.

      • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
        3·
        2 years ago

        Restricting accounts to an application has definitely helped retain some of that culture. Also, as with all massive growth, many will leave after some time for whatever reason and not come back. I’ve definitely noticed an uptick in activity this month though, probably because it’s vacation time.

        Many communities don’t have active mods anymore or were created by admins, but fortunately as admins we can act on any user or post in the instance so as long as the admin team is active and remains close-knit, we won’t have too much trouble.

        When the GZD exodus happened we had 150 new accounts to approve every day, it was crazy x)