“The hacker ethic is a philosophy and set of moral values that is common within hacker culture. Practitioners of the hacker ethic believe that sharing information and data with others is an ethical imperative. The hacker ethic is related to the concept of freedom of information, as well as the political theories of liberalism, anarchism, and libertarianism.” at hispagatos we are Anarchist, and we promote the hacker ethics from a anarchist (left, anti capitalist, no gods no masters) position but with technology and computer networks. We work hard to preserve decentralization,security and privacy in cyberspace and motivate towars an horizontal and non hierarchical techno-anarcho-communist society (TACS) where technology is made by people for the people not by corporate masters to control people. a(A)a
Hahaha I’m the one who wrote that paragraph.
thank you :) did you see this? is something Jeremy hammon and other people started in 2010 at HOPE conference https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anarchisthackers/ we been maintaining it with noisebridge for some time but have not keep it up to date.
Well, not all hackers are anarchists (in fact I don’t think the majority of hackers are). So I didn’t want to put it there.
For example, ESR is a classical liberal, many of the hackers who post are Marxist-Leninists, and there are even some hackers who are conservative.
I personally think the opposite. I think the majority of hackers are anarchists (at least those who apply those ethics), you cannot centralize and decentralize at the same time. Also, I think conservatives would not agree with letting everybody in and letting go intellectual property (same with liberals).
Maybe they call themselves “hacker” for marketing, but they certainly aren’t.
who says “all” hackers are anarchist? I am not sure where people is seen that… it says there is a “FORK” <- if you are a coder so you to understand… a sub/split/subpart/subgroup … etc etc call it whatever “inside the hacker culture” of anarchist hackers <---- I do not see any where that it says ALL hackers are anarchists… says some hackers started a new. just like there are Anarcho communist and green anarchists… there are hackers of many ways … ONE of those are anarchist hackers. Steven levy put it clear and now I do say anmd this is only some opiinions of people over 40 like most of my group “most” hackers follow into the anti authority type, read the hacker ethics. this are facts the rest is people individuals that separate themself to make their business and capitalist ideas look good like many people my age that sold out… you cant not say what is a hacker for what 4 sell out people said… and ESR is a libertarian cowboy AKA a libertarian in the USA, not a libertarian from the rest of the world definition. what we argue is that ESR is also anti authority just loves capitalism. still a hacker yes… im not sure maybe is because the ONLY person who was native english who wrote that are in jail and is been updated by people in Europe/Latin America for most part from the 1970’s and 80’s so feel free to help change the parts that makes people think that says ALL hackers because every now and then someone says that… another person on this thread also said that at first and had to re read it.
(an anarcho-capitalist’s point of view) It doesn’t make sense trying to attach the hacker culture to a particular movement. While you anarchists are surely involved in things like the FOSS movement, it is not fair to say you are the only ones. There’s a lot of people ranging from far right to far left. And believe me, many people from the right, including me, also hate those huge tech corporations. However, this whole discussion about politics is pointless. We are living in a dark age of the internet, and this divides us. The hacker community must unite if we are ever going to deliver the world from absolute centralization.
LOL been an anarcho-capitalist person who has no idea what anarchism is, and believes in oxymorons… has no respect for me. bye… ignored
How was I disrespectful? I am also curious about your definition of anarchism. To make things clear, I don’t consider myself an anarchist and the label “anarcho-capitalism” is terrible, but it’s what there is.
because 2 things, one there is no such thing as anarcho-capitalist that is a oxymoron and people who claim that have no idea of anarchist tradition, second, is clear you did not read the link because it clearly says that “AT” hispagatos we follow the … and not “all” hackers follow… the link is from the hacker ethics wikipedia that is based on studies on hackers from my time the 80’s and I lived those days and yes not all hackers were anarchist but one prevalent thing we all had is libertarian left ideas some libertarian right yes but mostly left, another thing is the twisted BS the infosec people tells people… read the ezinez from the 1980’s and why hackers came to be from the 60’s rebel movement at cambridge MA, including MIT… etc I am not here to explain history such why I linked to something you obviosly did not read. so yes for those two things. in normal hacker circles I will had said RTFM but since is an anarchist forum I decided to at least give a vague explanation.
replying to the 1st point: it seems to me that you don’t really know the anarcho-capitalist movement. We DO NOT embrace anarchism and we all think the “anarcho-capitalism” term is bad, but it’s simply the one everyone else uses to refer to us, and the one Murray Rothbard (sadly) came up with. We are against the existence of the State, but this does not makes us anarchists and we don’t claim so.
we agree on that, that makes it stateless etc, anarchism is more than just that (stateless)
