cross-posted from: https://lemmy.perthchat.org/post/42518

iirc it takes 9 months to birth a human on average. So someone could say abortion should be allowed at 8.9 month and someone can also say just 1 week.

I’m waiting for someone to say abortion should be allowed at 8.9 months cause i want to hear the reasoning.

Here’s my hot take: (ib4 ban) we should develop tech like artificial uteruses and just move unwanted baby/fetus/idk-the-terminology into these instead BUT we should also have a comprehensive social welfare program to raise ALL children/humans, and not conservative welfare where it’s like 1 mother figure taking care of 6 children with food stamps.

Given what i know about 2022 technology: if conservatives gave a hoot about child/fetus welfare, they’re have comprehensive social welfare programs, which would reduce the number of abortions bc at least the mother figure won’t be #rekt financially by have 6 kids.

  • Gaywallet (they/it)M
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    62 years ago

    If you have a 1 year old child that needs an organ or will die and you are a match, you are not required by law to give it to them. I don’t know many people who would make this decision, but we allow this and not abortions past the point of viability. If a mother’s health is severely compromised and they will die or be seriously injured bringing a 8.9 month baby into the world, it should be their choice. With that being said, at 8.9 months we can definitely drop the baby into a NICU and neither have to die so this hypothetical rests on false assumptions.

  • @anothertranscomrade
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    32 years ago

    I still see no circumstance within which it is anyone’s place but the mother to decide whether or not an abortion is an acceptable course of action.

    Still waiting for the “Pro-Life” folks to finally drop the act and admit they are actually “Anti-Choice.”

  • @southerntofu
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    12 years ago

    we should develop tech like artificial uteruses and just move unwanted baby/fetus/idk-the-terminology into these instead BUT we should also have a comprehensive social welfare program to raise ALL children/humans

    Yes not happening anytime soon. The social system is a disaster and our overlords have enough wage slaves to go by. Oh and they’re expanding the prison industrial complex to have even more slave work. Why would you insist on keeping fetuses alive if only to offer them a life of misery and slavery?

    Over a century ago major anarchists argued that bodily autonomy and reproductive rights were essential to make sure we the lower people don’t give an endless pool of cheap labor and cannon fodder to the bosses and the government. The situation has not changed since then, except that ecological conscience has grown to favor even more those neo-malthusian arguments like Emilie Lamotte had back in the day.

    All in all, do what you want with your body. I’m noone to judge whether someone should have an abortion or not (besides myself obviously). There’s a ton of personal context to consider that may make either decision dramatically traumatic: noone should be able to take it instead of the person directly affected.

  • @MelaninDigenous
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    -42 years ago

    It shouldn’t be allowed for any random irresponsible thot to use as plan C birth control. Countries like Barbados have it right. A victim of rape or a problematic pregnancy that endangers the mother, they allow abortions. Just some irresponsible GOer who sleeps around and doesn’t want to be responsible for the consequences of her actions shouldn’t be allowed one. Abortions should be applied for an handled on a case by case basis. The US culture is toxic and sick. You shouldn’t be able to just stroll in and suck a baby out because you don’t want to be responsible for the life you made. Again, rape and dangerous pregnancies? Yeah absolutely. Everything else, get responsible and learn accountability. get on one of the 500 BC methods.

    • @Slatlun
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      22 years ago

      Plan C? It turns out condom and birth control pills are less effective than I think you assume. Unwanted pregnancy can happened to “responsible” people.

      As to sleeping around being the problem - you know that it is possible to have frequent sex with a monogamous partner and still not want children, right?

      500 BC methods - are you talking about the chemical abortions that were common using specific plants across cultures, or are you pretending modern birth control methods haven’t evolved in 2500 years (similar to your views on who controls other people’s uteruses)?

  • @incici
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    2 years ago

    I think abortion should be allowed if the mother is a minor or if the pregnancy puts the life of the mother at substantial risk. I can’t justify ending a human existence for anything less.

    • @MelaninDigenous
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      Yeah this is absolutely true. It shouldn’t be allowed for a woman to decide she can just stroll in and Plan C because she loves dudes nutting in her unprotected but doesn’t want to deal with what comes with that.