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      I suppose my idea of patriotism has just been severely morphed by constant propaganda and indoctrination from early childhood into something that’s not patriotism at all, because I’ve never found it appealing for that reason. I’ve always interpreted patriotism to be “even if my country can do better, it is still fundamentally doing right things”.

      Yes, this is the upbringing issue. I seen this in a lot of cases of American communists - it’s not that they want to be like that, but they don’t have any other way, it was hammered in their heads and it take really a lot to overcome this. But it does happen, and not only at this issue - there’s several where the US perspective is pretty unique - for example racism, where they project the unique US perspective on the entire world, and they just can’t help but use the US “race science” terminology even though they are really against that racist shit. You can also easily see this for example around the debate about Sakai’s “Settlers”.

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        Oh god yeah, US “race science”, the dumbest shit ever. Apparently “latino” is a race now, even tho so called “latinos” are just europeans who immigrated to America and mixed with local indigenous people. Just shows you how racist the USA is, even latin europeans are inferior to them, only anglos are “racially pure”.

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          During the 30s/40s the US was almost as rascist as the nazis, if you look at some of the war posters with mussolini, Tojo and Hitler, they would make Mussolini brown for some reason (i dont know how it happened but anglos and western europeans hardly even think of south europeans as actual europeans, there was even a lot of rascism against Italians that is alive even today, along with the rascism against latin americans, that are basically portuguese and spanish people), and of course there was the completelly grotesque and deshumanizing propaganda against the japanese, only the germans escaped from the rascism (hmmm i wonder why?). Oh but during the ww1 era, when the US was even more rascist, they also depicted german soldiers as “cultureless barbarians” and american soldiers specially hated germans and generally killed them on sight, even after they surrendered.

          Talking about nazis, they haved awfully similar views with the americans when it was about race science, on the early stages of nazi germany they even thought latin people where “mediterraneans”, with could have easilly been used to demonize then like they did to slavs and jews, they only did not because they started sucking the dick of Franco, Salazar and mussolini because they haved no allies, only after the diplomacy with the latin countrys got better that they flipped the “mediterraneans” from “european black people” to “achtually they are just like us”, Yugoupnik made an exellent video dissecting the bs of the nazis.

          Moral of the story: yankees are assholes, they are able to find ways of rascism that not even the nazis thought it would made sense, like bruh, how much whiter your cracker asses want me to be so you can shut the fuck up? I already have portuguese and italian blood on me, but it doesnt count for them i guess? Race science is the dumbest shit to ever exist since capitalism was born.

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          “Caucasian” is the funniest shit ever, it’s like they just took aryan bullshit then rubbed last two neurons together and seen that it is nonsense, but instead of noticing the entire thing is a nonsense they tried to update it with rudimentary geography… Which make the result even more missed since the real caucasian people are those that are absolutely not counted as “white” by US racists, and the russian racists even called them “Black Asses”. This gentleman for example, heard this one a lot in his life.

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            The idea of “races” in general is completely stupid. The truth is that so called “races” are just a continuos spectrum of human physical charachteristics. You have 2 extremes, very white people like in Norway for example, and very black people like in Mali for example. The rest is just people in between those 2 extremes, forming a continuos spectrum depending on how much melanin your skin produces.