@tristan ah, the founder of the friendliest and most constructive social media site is taking on a complex and multifaceted problem that even the best engineers are having trouble solving! this is totally going to go over well
I can’t stand that Dorsey founded and was a key part of Twitter in the stages where it contributed towards the spread of bigotry online, and then now is trying to distance himself from the monster he created. These guys like Dorsey, Zuckerberg, etc. always have these neoliberal delusions that rely on reverse engineering answers to justify them getting more money and power. They go through their little “good guy” phases like what Dorsey is doing and what Bill Gates has been doing for years-- where they pretend to undo the outrageous amount of damage they’ve caused while largely profiting in the same ways they always have-- scumbag investment strategies.
These guys like Dorsey, Zuckerberg, etc. always have these neoliberal delusions
You might be right. I’m happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, at least to start with. It is possible they have learnt and changed over time. I guess we’ll see how Dorsey plays this one.
Just read over what you’re saying, please. In a conversation about multi-billionaires behind the most toxic social media platforms on the planet (Zuckerberg, Dorsey), you’re "happy to give them the benefit of the doubt" when they pitch a model like this, that is so plainly reliant on something they’re already heavily invested in?
Come on, as a leftist… I really do wish more people on the left were less inclined to give these ghouls the benefit of the doubt.
It absolutely does matter who the founder and sponsors are, they help determine the direction of the project and how intellectual property regarding it is treated. They’re also a bit more likely to be the major flagship service, at least in a critical early stage, which also gives them power and influence over the technology. Technology is not separated from our social world in an ideal.
Consider lemmy, pleroma and mastodon. Their founders have influenced large parts of their respective services, not all of them, but the largest parts of them. In some cases, this has even influenced the code itself (two of these had applied-by-default slur filters at a stage).
this proposal is not evil
Why would it be? ‘Evil’ is a strange concept, and many destructive and horrible ideas weren’t even motivated by things like greed or malicious intent.
@tristan ah, the founder of the friendliest and most constructive social media site is taking on a complex and multifaceted problem that even the best engineers are having trouble solving! this is totally going to go over well
I can’t stand that Dorsey founded and was a key part of Twitter in the stages where it contributed towards the spread of bigotry online, and then now is trying to distance himself from the monster he created. These guys like Dorsey, Zuckerberg, etc. always have these neoliberal delusions that rely on reverse engineering answers to justify them getting more money and power. They go through their little “good guy” phases like what Dorsey is doing and what Bill Gates has been doing for years-- where they pretend to undo the outrageous amount of damage they’ve caused while largely profiting in the same ways they always have-- scumbag investment strategies.
You might be right. I’m happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, at least to start with. It is possible they have learnt and changed over time. I guess we’ll see how Dorsey plays this one.
Just read over what you’re saying, please. In a conversation about multi-billionaires behind the most toxic social media platforms on the planet (Zuckerberg, Dorsey), you’re "happy to give them the benefit of the doubt" when they pitch a model like this, that is so plainly reliant on something they’re already heavily invested in?
Come on, as a leftist… I really do wish more people on the left were less inclined to give these ghouls the benefit of the doubt.
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It absolutely does matter who the founder and sponsors are, they help determine the direction of the project and how intellectual property regarding it is treated. They’re also a bit more likely to be the major flagship service, at least in a critical early stage, which also gives them power and influence over the technology. Technology is not separated from our social world in an ideal.
Consider lemmy, pleroma and mastodon. Their founders have influenced large parts of their respective services, not all of them, but the largest parts of them. In some cases, this has even influenced the code itself (two of these had applied-by-default slur filters at a stage).
Why would it be? ‘Evil’ is a strange concept, and many destructive and horrible ideas weren’t even motivated by things like greed or malicious intent.
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Yeah, could be a disaster! 😂