For one I fucking hate people man. Can’t recall others rn

  • DankZedong
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    I used to have a period in my life where I hated people as well. I hated when they were happy about things I couldn’t care about, I hated activities people did, I hated people walking around who were dressed bad, people eating stuff that they clearly shouldn’t, people liking dumb music, people watching dumb shows. You name a reason, and I probably hated people for it.

    But I also hated myself. And a big part of the hate I had for myself outed itself in hate towards others.

    I had to work on my own demons first before I could judge others. I had therapy, I cut toxic people out of my life, I forced a more open minded attitude on myself, I tried stuff I thought I hated. This last part especially opened my eyes. For examples, I had a big hate against festivals for some reason. But then I went to festivals and I loved it. By doing these stuff, I found out that a lot of my hate was not reasonable. I never tried the things I had a hate for. I never tried to see the other side of the story. And it made me realise that I could not always judge people when I had not experienced their part of the story.

    Most people are okay. Most people just want to live their lives in peace, with food, shelter and safety. Taking care of these needs for everyone is essentially communist. I can still have opinions in individual people while living in a communist society. But these judgements need to be based on actual reasons. Not because I’m miserable myself.

    Try to see what you might be missing in life, and try to find ways to obtain these things. Your opinion on people might change with it.

    • This resonates with me so much. I used to be so negative towards people who were passionate/ even just entertained by certain things.

      Like I think it’s nice that the couple down the street are holding hands, that someone is just chooses to sit at a park and sow something, and that the dude who likes collecting mechs is entertained by it.

  • Ratette (she/her)
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    You’ve got to remember that at its core, communism is an economic and societal model. Nowhere does it say “you must like people” but you’ve got to respect others are not caught up as maybe you are.

    You’d have despised me several years ago but I’d like to think now we could get along and share a mutual respect for each other and that’s due to others helping me learn and grow. If I’d have been left to wallow in my angloid chauvinism I hate to think who I’d be as a result.

    A lot of your comments I do relate to because I’ve being in those same spaces (still am sometimes) and I have no magic cure for it but as others have said, trying to reframe your perception of the lumpen proletariat might help take the edge of how you are feeling? It helped for me at least.

    Hope you are okay!

    • Ratette (she/her)
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      82 years ago

      Yeah this is what made me move from anarchism to communism. You can’t just wish things in place with good intentions.

  • Now I agree with Ratto: “You’ve got to remember that at its core, communism is an economic and societal model. Nowhere does it say ‘you must like people’” But this sounds like the doing of an eco-fascist. People can suck but usually class or phycology is the problem, not people.

  • @Ayulin@lemmygrad.ml
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    For me it’s that I just can’t trust the general public to do the right thing. Like, in principle when everybody would be educated enough to have scientifically backed opinions on political issues I can see a democracy work out. But when the general public is as dumb as they are right now I simply don’t trust them enough to rule a country. Ruling countries is genuinely difficult and if thousands of people can be convinced by a single bs spitting person, I simply don’t want them to run a country. In short, I think the vast majority of the proletariat can be considered lumpenproletariat and as long as this is the case, no true democracy could ever work, which is why the fake democracies of western countries can even be stable in the first place. To implement a dictatorship of the proletariat it would first be necessary to actually have a proletariat that is capable of dictating.

  • Mehrtelb [he/him]
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    Happens to everyone. Since I don’t know anything about you or your circumstances I can only guess, but I don’t think you hate every single person on this planet right? Judging from your earlier posts you seem to be dwelling on negative thoughts a lot, which in turn makes you ignore the good ones you have.

    You can’t help people if you don’t help yourself first, which is why you feel this way about your personal thoughts (most likely, again, just guessing).

    People probably already recommended therapy, but forcing yourself to do little things, cleaning, wandering around the block or having a conversation with a real person face-to-face can already help a lot.

    I am not saying that this is “just a phase” but this too will pass. You may not know when or even how, but it will, I promise.

    • @ZeroGravityOP
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      I already do a lot. I work, I clean, I cook, I study.

      State hospitals don’t do shit. Private doctors are too expensive and I’m doubtful even if I were to pay I’d get a result.

      I just don’t like the majority of people. I usually don’t care but now that I have to work I come to hate them having been required to interact with them.

      You know what they say. Average joe is dumb as bricks. Even more so here.

      • Seanchaí (she/her)
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        I think it’s important for you to try to reframe how you see others. Instead of seeing everyone around you as less intelligent than you, strive to remember that the “average joe” is poor, moments away from starvation, heavily exploited by the ruling class, and just doing their best to survive. They are not less than you. They have been propagandized, indoctrinated, beaten down, and subject to capitalist horrors in order to grind away at their sense of community and comraderie and keep them locked into a nightmare. To hate them is to blame the victim. To hate them is to remove yourself from the common struggle. To hate them is to lose the invaluable connection of community, which at its heart is the way forward: as a society, and as a species. You work, you eat, you study. But have you tried to join a community? An organization? It is exhausting, slogging through the system in order to survive, it can feel like there is no time or energy left to be active, to work on community-building and mutual aid. But that’s by design. They intend for you to be too tired. To just muddle through. That’s what everyone else is doing, and that’s why they often don’t have the energy to contain their emotions. That’s why they lash out, or are reactionary; they are venting frustration with the state of the world, with their upset at their lives, but they haven’t had the time or energy to learn where to actually direct that upset. You’re most of the way there. You’re exploring communism. But you’re also lashing out in all the wrong directions. So you have to dig down deep and find the energy to engage (even just a little) in the community. To find ways to educate others in where to direct their frustration. And, most importantly, to see yourself as a member, and not apart, from the people around you. At first it will be draining beyond imagining. But the beautiful thing about community, is that you all share your energy. That soon, those small, positive interactions, those little differences, will start to give you energy instead of taking it. We can’t make the world a better place by hating it. We can’t make ourselves better people by hating others. That’s their MO. We have to love the world. We have to love the people. We have to want better for everyone. Or we’ll all be ground to dust and buried alive.

        • @ZeroGravityOP
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          This is very well written and probably a good perspective.

          Also please use paragraphs.