ok next try to find a common ground on how to actually fight for a better world
Others have done that, we should analyze how they managed to do it and what we can learn from them that applies to our conditions and what does not.
Yeah it’s not easy… You can’t just shout “It’s time to overthrow the oligarchs!” in a subway car and expect results. Everyone in that subway car has shit to do and would rather not deal with you right now. I can speak from experience.
What actually worked was the hard work of organizing. Helping local small interest or political groups that we might not completely agree with grow. I’m talking about municipal homelessness relief groups, parent-teacher groups, unions. The best way to draw members in was free food, even better if there was cheap or free beer.
If you get a bunch of like minded people together, and you fill their bellies and loosen their tongues, and say how much things suck, then listen to what they say. You’d be surprised how much you can get done.
Shouting “we’re all victims of the billionaire class, let’s start the fight now!” on a subway is a great way to be labeled crazy.
It’s not easy, nor is it impossible. Organizing is simply hard, and thus we need to see what has worked for others.
Sadly election results prove every few years, that you are the only one seeking radical change.
~30-50% want extreme conservativism/capitalism. ~20-40% want everything as-is.
~30% want mild improvements like a really low UBI.
<5% want to get rid of oligarchs.
<.1% want to eliminate suffering.Have you talked to people? They’re pretty insufferable.
Everyone is tired and on edge so we fight each other as it was planned.
I have talked to people. That’s how I’ve found fellow socialists at work, alongside some others who are increasingly (and surprisingly) critical of capitalism and systematic issues affecting them.
Obviously culture changes from place to place, I don’t know your circumstances, but I expected my workplace to be especially conservative.
I was surprised how few people I work with are Republicans. Yeah it’s a union shop but it’s still hard to find in manufacturing. It may just be that they keep their mouths shut to avoid being outed, I don’t know.
Maybe. It could also be just a general aversion of politics in the workplace, it’s usually not a good place to start (non-work related) political fights.
Actually politics are pretty well discussed here, especially because of our current situation in the economy, plus talks of moving to Mexico.
Yeah, most people I’ve met are like that.
It’s everything else I ca t stand.
Someone in that thread you linked to posted this short video, I think it’s worth a watch: There are more communists than you think!
in turkey there are 400 thousand communists that always vote for minority parties and a fuck load more that vote for other parties because minority parties have no chance
This is in an extremely conservative country and you might see through that USA, Germany, Britain and alike have a higher percentage of such population
FUCK it’s too real
Alles was fehlt damit die Revolution in Gang kommt, ist, dass jemand den ersten Schritt tut
Luigi sagt nein.
Braucht wahrscheinlich eher sowas wie ne netflix serie oder ein tiktok Video.
Ja dann mach ma’
Crypto?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-communism
Crypto-communism is a secret support for, or admiration of, communism.
As in communists who hide their ideology
Everyone who wants to fly to America has to. Am curious what would happen if I ticked Yes next to “have you ever associated with communists”. Do they just kick you out or is there a lengthy interrogation process first?
I feel seen
