• davelA
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    The tech sector is gloming onto the Trump train 🤷

    Unless you like being disappointed, don’t expect better from CEOs. CEOs are on Trump’s side of the class war. The “little guys” he’s talking about are not the working class, they’re the petite bourgeoisie.

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    Motherfucker! I just switched to proton from bitwarden a couple months ago.

    Where do I go from here? I’ve got their family plan thing for vpn and password manager. Help me find something else?

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    Trump won by 1.5% and the media acts like it was a Reagan-esque 1980 sweep. They had to gerrymander for decades and launch a massive misinformation campaign to get this outcome too. Plus Biden had to be one step into dementia and punt to unpopular Kamala (who lost her 2020 primary attempt) last minute to help this small victory. Yet everyone is acting like this is some massive referendum and America fully swung to the right. These sycophantic tech bros are showing their bellies awful quick.

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      Trump won by 1.5% and the media acts like it was a Reagan-esque 1980 sweep.

      Agreed. Every president tries to pretend that they have a mandate. But consider:

      Wisconsin has 10 electoral votes. If 14,699 people in Wisconsin had voted differently, Trump would have lost Wisconsin. Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee will fit that many people.

      Michigan has 15 electoral votes. If 40,052 people in Michigan had voted differently, Trump would have lost Michigan. Comerica Park in Detroit will fit that many people.

      Pennsylvania has 19 electoral votes. If 60,134 people in Pennsylvania had voted differently, Trump would have lost Pennsylvania. Beaver Stadium in University Park will fit that many people.

      Without those electoral votes, Trump would have lost the election. That was the size of his victory: 2 stadiums and an arena.

      Source:

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      Gerrymandering isn’t possible with presidential races. And he won by 86 electoral college votes, including all of the states people were looking at as possible swing states. That’s why everyone is saying he won a landslide.

      The fact that he won despite being a literal convicted criminal and despite having previously shown himself to be one of, if not the worst president in history, says a huge amount about Americans’ willingness to accept fascism. People are right to be troubled by this.

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        Gerrymandering doesn’t directly affect presidential races, but it does affect them. States that were gerrymandered to Republican super majorities created rules to make voting harder for lots of democratic areas. They limited ballot access and purged voter roles in blue areas. It also affects the electoral college. As part of all the other tactics, it all made a difference.

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          Interesting in theory, so thanks for sharing. But in practice, not going to matter. It would require a third party to win in at least one state before the EC can fail to reach a majority.

          Edit: actually on second thought, I suppose a tie is also possible without a third party winning. But still, a tiny edge case, really.

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        To drive home that point even further

        More than 89 percent of counties in the United States shifted in favor of former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election

        […] the 2024 results showed that all 50 states had shifted right.

        Source: NY Times

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      The media is owned by guys that could be called right wing. No surprise they want to hype him.

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    I saw this on Mastodon yesterday and immediately deleted all my proton stuff.

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    His defense of his stance is pretty weak as well, imho.

    It feels like it would be a bit like IBM working with Hitler and saying “well he’s right on this one specific policy issue.”

    The idea that he honestly thinks Trump is fighting for anyones rights betrays what must be ulterior motives.

    While there are other good people on the board, it is going to be hard to get this taint off of Proton.

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      “Hitler banned smoking and has animal cruelty laws, so we’re going to overlook his human cruelty as long as the bills get paid” – IBM, probably

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      Makes me question whether he’s going to secretly start logging certain activists. I’m not implying he is, but praising a known fascist with autocratic aspirations doesn’t make me feel good in the context of privacy.

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          I’m aware of that case. Since then, they haven’t claimed to have totally private email, but they were able to do that partly because of how email works, and back then, they only did it because they were bound by law. Their VPN works differently, due to storing any log data only in memory and only temporarily (i.e. nothing is written to disk). That’s not what I’m referring to.

          When I say I’m concerned, I’m referring to actions like changing that no-log policy on their VPN without telling anyone.

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            You are pretty naive about their ability and willingness to tell anyone especially after all the bad press they got for the case above. They don’t have a warrant canary and their excuse why not only applies to Swiss citizens.

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              They don’t have a warrant canary and their excuse why not only applies to Swiss citizens

              What is their excuse? I haven’t heard it.

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              And you’re entitled to your opinion and to be more suspicious. I’m not really interested in making cynical guesses upon the mere possibility that I might be right someday.

              I’m not a customer of theirs, so I don’t have much care what he says except for what it means for people who use Proton and for privacy in general.

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      It feels like it would be a bit like IBM working with Hitler and saying “well he’s right on this one specific policy issue.”

      “As the owner of an asphalt company, I think this new Reichskanzler’s autobahn-building initiative is fantastic!”

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      Reposting some links from a thread two days ago about his response on Reddit.

      I thought this comment (and the thread below it…and the lack of any reply to it despite the CEO being all over the thread elsewhere) was pretty telling.

      It’s much less of a strong tell, but is slightly concerning that he’s picked up language like “triggered”. As comments there say, his excuse of not being in-tune with American politics could be real, but are also possibly just plausible deniability, because he may have picked up on that language by hanging out online with fascists.

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        It’s also worth noting that technically his username is “andy88” (1011000 is 88 in binary) which while that’s likely his birth year, is still something you would hope someone from Switzerland of all places would recognize it as a Nazi dogwhistle and in poor taste for a username.

        He might be able to hide behind not being familiar with US culture, but he cannot hide behind not being familiar with Nazi culture.

        At a certain point, it stops being just coincidences.

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          I posted the same in another thread, but it’s also likely because it’s considered a lucky number to the Chinese.

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          Yeah the swiss never had any issues with knowing Nazi culture. The more things change the more they stay the same.

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    Fuck Trump, but also he’s right about the Democratic Party not standing up for the little guy. They stand up for corporations and defense contractors. Even CNN, aka the Democratic Party News Network, called the UHC assassination a tragedy and aired “heartfelt” stories about how the CEO was a great guy and had a family.

    If they were the ones standing up for the little guy, they wouldn’t have snuffed out Bernie

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      "Thank you for responding. It’s not nearly as polarizing as you suggest once you look at the numbers.

      The American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA) was advanced by the Senate Judiciary Committee on January 20, 2022, with a 16-6 bipartisan vote.

      Senators who voted in favor (Yes):

      Democrats:

      Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)

      Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT)

      Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)

      Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)

      Senator Christopher Coons (D-DE)

      Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)

      Senator Mazie Hirono (D-HI)

      Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)

      Senator Alex Padilla (D-CA)

      Senator Jon Ossoff (D-GA)

      Republicans:

      Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA)

      Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

      Senator John Cornyn (R-TX)

      Senator John Kennedy (R-LA)

      Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC)

      Senator Mike Lee (R-UT)

      Senators who voted against (No):

      Republicans:

      Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)

      Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE)

      Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO)

      Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR)

      Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)

      Senator John Kennedy (R-LA)

      Now tell us again how the “bipartisan” bill where EVERY NO VOTE IS REPUBLICAN is evidence that the Democrats are not committed to antitrust reform?

      Schumer didn’t oppose the bill. You know very well that he made a strategic decision to not bring the bill to a vote because the Silicon Valley tech bros opposed the bill and THANKS TO CITIZENS UNITED, their money is SPEECH.

      The people who brought you that decision were ALL REPUBLICAN appointees. Every single one.

      In a 50/50 divided Senate (with two independents in the D column but Sinema and Manchin working against the caucus), there was a POLITICAL REALITY to contend with. Sadly, the money screws up everyone.

      You are 100% wrong about this alleged reversal of “little guy” roles, and you seem to be deliberately obtuse about the facts."

      This is a quote directly from the reddit thread where he made his secondary statement after the first one on shitter went viral. Context is important and he still has yet to actually answer to this.

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    Is he correct about the antitrust actions starting under Trump?

    What’s so good or bad about this woman he’s so enthusiastic about?

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      He is correct, the controversy is that Andy praised one allegedly good decision out of many many bad ones. I.e. this might be one half step forward, but many steps backwards overall

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        He also said Democrats are corrupt and that the GOP is the party that represents the little guy. At worst, he’s MAGA. At best, he’s a credulous buffoon who shouldn’t be running a company that vulnerable people use to protect themselves.

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    He’s not technically wrong. The Google stuff started under Trump (which is a big part of why everyone is kissing his ass now). The ability to make the argument that the GOP is the working class party is the fruit of innumerable evil decisions made by the DNC, starting with supporting Reagan’s neoliberal gutting of our way of life, and culminating with campaigning with the Cheneys as their standard bearers.

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      He’s not technically wrong that Republicans stand for the little guys???

      That’s 100% wrong!

      If he stopped at DNC being corrupt, sure, but he goes as far as to suggest that Republicans care about little people and I’m sorry but anyone who believes that is either getting paid or an idiot.

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        Agreed. It’s possible (and accurate) that neither party is “for the little guy.” It’s a false dichotomy to claim otherwise.

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      Right i don’t get the melt down… anti big tech sentiment is valid, i just don’t trust trump will crack down. THAT’S THE ISSUE HERE

      Let smaller companies compete, big tech is just rent seeking now. the AI slop did nothing for anybody v the cost put into it and how much it costs to run it.

      Where is the value creation but really where is the benefit to the working American.

      I don’t give two fucks about tech when basics like housing, healthcare and education are a fucking price gouging orgy.

      PS. DNC komisars allowed trump to even get here, never forget how they blocked bernie. with that being said, trump won’t do shit about oligopolies and he won’t deport “illegals” beyond fake news circle jerk campaign.