Snapshot gauging. How do you feel about the Shit Reactionaries Say community at this moment?

We ask because almost 2 years ago, we merged all “Shit X Say” communities into two: Reactionaries and Ultras.

We also, by popular demand back then, made the communities NSFW so that they would be easy to avoid for people who didn’t want to see this type of content.

Today, we are asking how you feel about this community (And SUS as well, though it’s much less popular than SRS). This will potentially shape further policy related to these two communities.

It’s a pretty open-ended question so don’t hesitate to be thorough.

  • KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml
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    16 days ago

    I like it, the merger was a good idea. Back on Reddit I see a lot of subreddits that are about the same thing and it irritates me because those communities are divided. But those lessons are learned here. I think the content that’s posted here is relevant as well, and I agree with the NSFW tags.

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      12 days ago

      I hate to do the whole liberal “tax break for those who open and operate a business in a minority community for 3 years” thing but could we perhaps try and achieve similar with moderation with some wiggle-room?

      That is allow people to vent on rare occasion when they need to about some spectacularly bad nobody take but maybe make a rule that any given user can only make such posts once in a blue moon or some more defined period like 3 months.

      Anyone who violates it gets a temp ban from the community. As I see it the issue is probably mostly a few power-posters who seek out and serve up this kind of material in large quantities rather than a huge stream of many users doing this. This would at least encourage serving up only the most choice bits rather than everything and make it more interesting. Would be up to the mods if they feel like doing that kind of work though.

      Though I do think it would be wise to have a low floor for this. That is allow a lot of content that is from “personalities” who aren’t say a US senator or a major company CEO but are someone with some renown and clout online as opposed to a 2 follower no profile picture Twitter account that posted something that got all of two likes.

      I also think lemmy drama can be a bit more relevant and topical here even when done by non-public figures. e.g. I don’t mind seeing (and in fact appreciate being kept informed about) the latest admin shit-show from .world where they’re banning people for saying jury nullification or some other ridiculous boot-licking thing as I think that helps passerby not of our instance think a bit more about us in a positive light and them in a worse light. So clarification that say lemmy admin actions/announcements are relevant for posting would be great.

      I think before implementing such a change an analysis SHOULD be done which looks at posts say through the last 3-6 months, whatever can be stomached and categorizes them quickly. That is check before implementing that a rule like this wouldn’t remove 80% of the content as my lemmygrad feed hardly has a problem with too many posts in a day.

      • “prohibiting” was probably too strong a word – I don’t mind if those kinds of posts pop up every now and then, particularly if they’re not generic, but I don’t think they should be the majority

        someone with some renown and clout online as opposed to a 2 follower no profile picture Twitter account that posted something that got all of two likes

        yeah, I count the former as public figures; my only real issue is that the community is often flooded with the latter

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    15 days ago

    The recent Hexbear drama has made me appreciate the fact that there is an instance for Socialists with less overzealous moderation and restrictions. I think the consolidation of the “Shit X Say” communities was ultimately a good idea (even if I did really appreciate /c/NonsenseUkraineTakes). I believe that marking the coms as NSFW is unnecessary but it’s not a hill to die on.

    I like the community. I feel that efforts to “shave the rough edges off” online communities just make them clique-y and at once boring to interact with and also foster a feeling of “stepping on eggshells”. To put it short, Lemmygrad should make an effort to become worse, not better.

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    15 days ago

    I took a glance at the past week’s posts and I don’t think there’s anything that merits this worry about people’s mental health. This com doesn’t resemble some reactionary subreddit filled with tweets with 2 likes or comments under 100 view Youtube videos. Nobody is trying to artificially get a rise out of comrades and nobody seems to spend entire days angry-posting about liberals or whomever.

    Basically I don’t see a point in further restrictions. I’m open to changing my view if the mods say the facts of the case are contrary to my opinion.

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    15 days ago

    It produces a lot of stuff that I don’t find amusing or noteworthy, but I stay subscribed to it because it does occasionally produce a laugh and it frequently leads me to content that I can share with friends who aren’t class conscious - the kinds who are near the pipeline but are skittish about AES because of the brainwashing.

    Also, I think that spotting, sharing and laughing at the contradictions in lib and capitalist rhetoric is an important part of development in new leftists. It might tire the older ones, but it’s worth making a space for the newly red.

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    15 days ago

    I think it’s fine in the way the place is formatted, but the place right now is filled to the brim with low-quality and low-effort content, consisting of random screenshots of youtube comment sections of liberals being liberals, nothing noteworthy that should be deserving of a post.

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    15 days ago

    I don’t think its great for anyone’s mental health to have rage-bait and cringe communities, but its unavoidable: we all see reactionary things and need a space to either point and laugh at it, or critique it.

    Our options are either to not have one at all, or confine the cringe posting to a single community that people can and should probably block, as we’ve already done.

    It’s a continuous process to figure out what kind of limits we should put on that community tho, and I realize that’s the thrust of this post. Like we obviously aren’t going to let ppl post racist characatures there, but low-hanging reactionary youtubers? If ppl want to point and laugh at them, that’s fine I spose.

    So I think things are probably fine as is, and advise everyone who cares about their mental health to block that community.

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    15 days ago

    Yea it was definitely a good call to merge it. As already stated a few times, YT comments really are kind of cheating but it is what it is, there is basically no way to spend a day on the internet and not encounter a content for the sub at least once.

  • My largest fear with this community is that it is increasing a sense of dunking and being done with the issue, or like liberals are unable to be educated, and that does not assist in the creation of any movement. I understand and do partake in the cathartic release this community provides, however, and this may just be my perseption, that the comunity as a whole has moved to a more insular stance and is faster to just attack liberals instead of attempting to educate them, and I worry that this community is playing a roll in that

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      13 days ago

      Same. To me it doesn’t stick out in any way, either positively or negatively. Most of the time i don’t even notice it. It’s just there for a specific purpose and that’s totally fine.