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    The “oppressed” woman only becomes whole to the oppressor when she oppresses herself willingly, but this time for their pleasure. Until then, she is only an automaton, human in form but not in spirit.

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    against Islamic [sic] regime!

    Does it never occur to anticommunists that people can prefer or tolerate a government while still opposing some of its policies…? I know that the concept of a ‘Muslim feminist’ is too hard for them to understand, but surely they remain clever enough to figure out that not every single demonstration has to be either pro- or antigovernment, right?

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    I see these posts as a desire to sexually abuse muslim women. But of course, they frame it as “feminism”

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      It’s so utterly gross and never fails to make my stomach churn. Discussions of Women’s rights and patriarchy within Muslim communities are happening all the time, in mosques, youth groups, hoyseholds (I speak with my mother consistently on these issues), bot as much as they really need to in my opinion but they occur nonetheless. Yet it is divorced from the invented reality which white liberals (and even leftists) live in, and if they were to peer into our conversation, which I’d prefer they didn’t as they can’t help to insert their chauvinistic views onto us often, they’d find it unrecognizable to what they expect, and that makes sense. They aren’t a part of the community nor do they have insight on how it operates very well, I don’t expect them to understand, but I’d personally like them to stop this overt fetishism for Muslim women if they genuinely wish to improve the situation at all. It only feeds into conservative narratives of patriarchal norms and the “necessity” (status quo) of maintaining “tradition” since all of us see the intervention of liberals in our spaces as dangers to our community.

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        Liberals, in my experience, think that US evangelicalism is the paradigm for all religions (despite the fact that evangelicalism as Americans understand it developed quite recently within global Christianity). Hence they assume that every religion is in itself basically static, because fundamentally incoherent; it consists in a few principles, badly understood and adopted originally for political ends, which must be defended at all costs and never approached with any kind of nuance. Thus we get religion as brand or identity, rather than a way of life. If the average American Protestant, by and large, believes nothing and bows mostly to secularism in his day-to-day actions, but proclaims loudly (and as a kind of remnant of earlier faith) that you must “read the BI-BUHL and accept Jesus or you won’t be SAVED” – well, then, the average Muslim must similarly see the truth of western liberalism, and for reasons merely eccentric or perverse insist on “oppressing women,” etc., and this can never change. Or so thinks the liberal.

        But the thing is, most religions are not like that. Catholicism is not like that; most Protestants are not like that; nor is Islam like that. They are living systems of life and belief, which one can accept or reject on their own merits. They are not dead signifiers, like US evangelicalism is: for the latter is nothing but bourgeois “secularism” with a tacked-on Christian “theme.” But liberals find the American view of religion easy to accept, because their own politics and philosophy are also inconsistent, virtue-signaling, and confused.

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    Sorry, I don’t know the context. Did she do this as a protest do draw attention to women’s rights in Iran? If so, this drawing seems in support, depicting her as towering over her surroundings, and doesn’t seem particularly sexualised.

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      The Iranian story is that she suffered a breakdown from stress and anxiety. The immediate western story was that she was doing this as protest after the police took her hijab or told her to put one on, they don’t seem to know either.

      It is meant to be in support of her protest following the western line but there’s also a reason they latch onto half naked protestors and depict them preferably. If she had protested another way she would have been a blip in the noise, like the one guy army who shows up to a Chinese bridge every weekend with a sign about whatever.

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        The Iranian story is that she suffered a breakdown from stress and anxiety. The immediate western story was that she was doing this as protest after the police took her hijab or told her to put one on, they don’t seem to know either.

        Spivak talks about this in Can the Subaltern Speak. She can conform to islamist misogyny or ‘liberate’ through western sexualisation. But she can never express herself outside of these opresssive paradigms.

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      Typical colonial ethos, they have to kill every Iranian man to ‘save’ Iranian women. I recall how in 2022 when the Kabul evacuation was happening, every Lib was frothing at the mouth at how Afghan men should let the women and children evacuate rather than take up space on the planes. It’s just sex trafficking with extra steps.

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        Same ethnos behind proclaiming the Native American man as savage and the Native American woman as a Damsel to be saved from their savage ways, or how the whole trope of the Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow as seen from Madam Butterfly to The Life of Suize Wong. But they freak out as soon as a POC dates a white woman

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      different conditions, and it isn’t a good time nor does it make sense, maybe a few years ago during the hijab protests, but now I don’t think I’ve heard of a major incident recently? I don’t know anything about that girl, but the timing works to deligitimize Iran to the world and it deligitimizes feminism to Iran during a time when it’s the main force against an ongenocide, I can see it being wrecker behaviour.

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        IIRC it was a protest against some University’s dress code or something. Good for her for speaking up you know but it is just so obvious why western media is having a run with this while Muslim women get dictated what to wear in western countries too. As always with the Muslim women debate, women’s right are rarely the highlighted part. Only when it serves bourgeois interests. My coworkers are fighting to be able to wear hijabs but get shunned by the same media who are calling this woman a hero for doing the exact same. The hypocrisy is immense.

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          My coworkers are fighting to be able to wear hijabs

          Which shows that this was never about freedom for women to dress however they want. I don’t know how it is in the US but all over Europe Muslim women have to constantly fight against societal and sometimes legal discrimination against wearing the hijab. Even when the state doesn’t get involved like it does in France, you still have to deal with other people around you looking at you with either fear or disgust and treating you differently because of how you choose to dress, not to mention the fact that sometimes there are outright physical attacks. Westerners don’t want women to dress the way women want, they want women to dress the way western men want them to.

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    It looks like it’s winter because everyone is wearing jackets. She looks cold.

    Edit: I realise now it’s posted on 03/11 but not sure if it happened on 03/11.

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    Cool, now show me US media of a heroic naked dude in a walmart bravely standing up the cultural norms of the Christian State.

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    Well… USA gave a celebrity status to the sexualized and empowered Hawk Twah lady. However, USA definitely doesn’t have a bright future ahead, including that women’s rights related.