More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful

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    2 hours ago

    🌳 Die? No. We lost them, and now we cannot find them.

    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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      Women are rightfully concerned about the loss of bodily autonomy. They don’t want to live in the handmaids tale.

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      This is probably more of a symptom than a cause, but social media platforms pushing manosphere content isn’t helping.

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      It’s “The Woke”. Women are more visible in society as they are treated more equally, so certain (yes not all men) men see that as men losing rights and want to go back to “the good old days”

      If you created a similar graph mapping the ideology gap between races or straight and LGBTQIA+ they’d look very similar.

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      The answer is simple the media is radicalizing people and gender is one of their primary motivations it is hand tailored to divide and conquer minds.

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      Fascism is sociologically rooted in the sexual insecurity of men. That’s why it’s always men driving it.

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          I knew it as soon as I read your ‘Tate is right’ bullshit.

          So facism is mens fault?

          Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

          I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing?

          The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.

          Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

          It’s room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

          Such profound concern trolling wisdom from the wisest of all Star Wars characters! soypoint-1 live-slug-reaction soypoint-2

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        Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitslist decay, not in moral failures of men.

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      1 hour ago

      Women’s lib has been great for women but not so good for men. So men are becoming reactionary.

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        Bullshit. Most men suffer under toxic patriarchy as well. I absolutely love that this shit is finally getting pulled into the spotlight. I have not suffered a single iota of harm from anything “woke” and I would argue that no honest man has either.

        • How do men suffer under patriarchy? Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives? Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people. I wonder what such a narrative would do to a young man trying to develop a sence of self, identity, and personal ideology?

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            Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives?

            This is so back asswards it is genuinely astounding.

            Men are 75% of suicides under patriarchy.

            Damn I wonder how someone could conclude that patriarchy hurts the majority of men.

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        What the fuck?

        Just because one side gets more rights, doesn’t mean the other side loses rights.

        I guess if the rights you miss is the ability to beat your wife without repercussions.

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      Rapid increases in the productive forces of South Korea has resulted in a progressive population of women and a hyper-reactionary population of men, the increase in productive forces was so rapid it caused a hyper-sharpening of contradictions with tradition.

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      to the privileged, equality is oppression. And therefore more pushback to maintain the status quo

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    Here, have some unsourced data on subjective tendencies.

    Nah, that doesn’t count as data just yet then.

    Especially not at a point in time where someone like Trump is said to represent “Conservatism”.

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    What’s the source? I wanna learn about the weird unexpected drops in some countries.

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      Lol yeah woman were much safer, better educated, and financially independent historically. /S

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        Current trends will definitely continue and there has never been large sociopolitical upheavals in the past, and there definitely won’t be any in the future.

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        Current trends will definitely continue and there has never been large sociopolitical upheavals in the past, and there definitely won’t be any in the future.

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    A few folks have mentioned that these charts

    1. conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations
    2. does not include people who do not identify with one of those dominant parties
    3. have some somewhat unreliable stats magic behind them

    A lot of young men in the US are reporting themselves as “not a Democrat or Republican”, and that’s causing a lot of this proportional shift. I would bet that characterizes a lot of folks on this site who are not conservative.

    https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/13/24098780/politics-gender-divide-generation-z-youth-men-women

    https://www.allendowney.com/blog/2024/01/28/is-the-ideology-gap-growing/

  • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    shit sucks which primes people for radicalization and The Algorithm basically pushes men to be chud shitheads (which doesn’t really work for women because who is going to listen to “become a baby machine” and think YEAH, BET)

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      You’d be surprised, until they encounter what that actually means and will mean for them specifically - some conservative women trick themselves into thinking they’ll be given an exemption. Or they really just don’t what it means until someone like Crowder is brow-beating them and not letting them leave

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      In my city, there’s a Korean community and from my friend who is a teacher, those girls who left Korea hate Korean dudes and want to hook up with Americans.

      I don’t understand anything about Korean culture or k-pop.

      But after reading about 4B, this is starting to make sense.

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      4B can be described as some kind of feminist, but it’s also extremely reactionary.