• heavy@sh.itjust.works
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    What if we could have a world that wasn’t powered by ads? I’d like to get past this “only one way to run the internet” train of thought.

    I’m just so tired of ads, commercials and advertising in general. It’s exhausting.

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      Well, do you subscribe to news sites, YouTube Premium, Kagi? The world you dream of is available to you today

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    Does this mean they are gonna brick ublock origin and force me to Google’s 3.0 shit? (I forgot the name of it)

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      Manifest v3? I gather they’re already moving towards this but not in a manner which harms ad blocking

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    Now imagine if they had something to advertise which people actually want!

  • Preston Maness ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    We know that not everyone in our community will embrace our entrance into this market. But taking on controversial topics because we believe they make the internet better for all of us is a key feature of Mozilla’s history. And that willingness to take on the hard things, even when not universally accepted, is exactly what the internet needs today.

    But you’re not doing the hard things. You’re doing the easy thing. Capitulation to surveillance capitalism is the easy thing.

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      We know that not everyone in our community will embrace our entrance into this market… even when not universally accepted, is exactly what the internet needs today.

      Every fucking tech corporation ever has said this.

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    In parallel to our existing consumer products, we have the opportunity to build a better infrastructure for the online advertising industry as a whole. Advertising at large cannot be improved unless the tech it’s built upon prioritizes securing user data. This is precisely why we acquired Anonym.

    Catering to the ad industry is backwards thinking, imo. Securing user data is easy enough if you do not collect it to begin with.

    Imo, the fact companies have changed the narrative in favor of advertisers and data collection, proves only profit matters, not the people.

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    She went on to work at eBay for 13 years, followed by PayPal, Skype, and Airbnb. source

    why would Mozilla choose to be directed by an ebay+paypal+airbnb experience and can somebody with that background not think like this ☞

    “Because Mozilla’s mission is to build a better internet. And, for the foreseeable future at least, advertising is a key commercial engine of the internet, and the most efficient way to ensure the majority of content remains free and accessible to as many people as possible.”

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      Advertising will not improve unless we address the underlying data sharing issues, and solve for the economic incentives that rely on that data.

      thanks to Mozilla for assuming the responsibility of improving advertising

      We can’t just ignore online advertising — it’s a major driver of how the internet works and is funded. We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it. For those reasons, Mozilla has become more active in online advertising over the past few years. - MARK SURMAN, PRESIDENT, MOZILLA source

      if we stay with that metaphor of “We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it”, it’s not difficult to imagine Mark and Mozilla being swallowed by the monster he’s “staring straight in the eyes” :/

      i hope they can filter the shit Mozilla will include in Firefox from mull and mullvad

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        She’s not particularly wrong, but this highlights the problem for me.

        Why does the corporate arm behind one of the last “free” browsers out there need to become involved in this clear conflict of interest?

        Why does this need to be developed as core functionality in the browser codebase instead of as an addon like most of the previous experiments?

        There is repeated insistence that this is key to the future of the web. I don’t neccessarily disagree. I disagree entirely that this should have any direct contact with the Firefox project. Create a separate subsidiary within Mozilla for this shit. Anything to maintain a wall between the clearly conflicting goals.

        This all reads like a new CEO coming in hungry to make a mark rather than actually just be a steward to keeping business as usual going.

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    Hey, Laura. Fuck you. Fuck your profits and your corporate greed. Enshit yourself till you close down.

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    Not everyone?

    Does anyone?

    Good thing we can fork, I guess, but it’s kinda sad to watch a previously good org die

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      Fork, blah, blah, blah.

      When one of these forks doesn’t depend on Mozilla to do all the heavy lifting of security updates and compatibility fixes, then maybe we can talk seriously about forks. But no fork does fuck-all towards the hard part of maintaining a web browser engine. So forks mean nothing.

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    Frankly, I’m surprised it took them so long to say this publicly. For over a year, Mozilla has had a de facto conflict of interest when it came to their stance on advertisements, so take anything they say about their necessity with a huge grain of salt…

    May 2023: Mozilla purchases FakeSpot, a company that sells private data to advertisers. Mozilla keeps selling private data to advertisers to this day.

    June 2024: Mozilla purchases Anonym, an AdTech company.

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    But at least forking is still an option. The instant they make any moves that inhibit forking or privacy on forks, Firefox will be completely dead. For now, it’s just gangrenous.

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      I wish that most forks wouldn’t be even worse. Pale Moon, the most interesting one, is a gang of patent trolls.

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        Pale Moon feels like it forked during the peak of Windows Vista, and hasn’t updated its UI, or extension library since.

        LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser, and Waterfox feel the most up to date, while being FOSS.