• Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    You then don’t see the irony in telling the LGBT “we stand with you” and then going to homophobic nations and homophobic sects and saying the same thing (because they promise help with a certain advancement in awareness)?

    That goes along with what I was talking about, about people making deals with the devil (a figure of speech by the way). I’m pretty sure this phenomenon does not need any help from class phenomenon, positive or negative, in order to exist.

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      4 months ago

      The irony of who telling which LGBT people and subsequently going to “homophobic” states and saying the same thing to whom?

      If someone understands what you’re trying to say, perhaps they can translate for me.

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        4 months ago

        There is no “which” or “whom”. That’s implied in the main inquiry. Unless you just wanted to talk about class to someone.

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          4 months ago

          There is no “which” or “whom”.

          So there is a disembodied conversation going on between two non-entities, or groups of non-entities?

          That’s implied in the main inquiry.

          What is implied in what inquiry?

          I’ve actually run into you before, in another post, and you didn’t make sense that time, either.

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              The discussion is about why progress has gone backwards on societal acceptance.

              A primary reason that progress is going backwards in many capitalist states is because fascism is on the rise in those states.

              Why is fascism on the rise? Is it a meme that just randomly started spreading throughout the imperial core, for no particular reason? No, there is a material basis for it: it is because capitalism is in decay in those states. And fascism doesn’t simply run on vibes: fascist movements are funded by the wealthy, by billionaire oligarchs like Elon Musk and by people who own car dealerships & restaurant franchises. Trumpism: It’s Coming From the Suburbs

              Specifically in the US, there is also the ratchet effect, which has been causing politics on the whole to lurch ever more rightward.

              And it doesn’t take a Marxist to see what’s going on. Chris Hedges is a liberal who saw it coming 14 years ago in Death of the Liberal Class, long before Trump entered politics.

              In any case your answer to the question was, “good intentioned politicians making deals with homophobic devils so to speak in order to save other people.” I don’t think that is a very good answer at all.

              • Who are these figurative devils?
              • What about them is devilish, and why are they they like that? What is their motivation?
              • What “other people” are they saving, and what are they being saved from?
              • Why do these devils have enough power over “good intentioned” politicians to change the course of history?
              • What makes you think the politicians have good intentions in the first place?
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                    Did you really just dox someone twenty-fold and dismiss them as an intentional “firehose” of drama/nonsense without any proof/testimony/investigation whatsoever before banning them to get out of a debate? You guys are low.