• Isoprenoid@programming.dev
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    Careful, many online atheists don’t understand that they have to prove a negative. That they have to prove the assertion: “There is no god.”

    The default position is that there is yet insufficient evidence to draw a conclusion.

    Edit: Thank you for the downvotes, you have provided me with further evidence that online atheists don’t understand that they have to prove a negative. Your butthurt fuels me.

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      8 months ago

      This guy eats babies

      prove me wrong

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        You have made the assertion, thus you have the burden of proof.

        “what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence” QED

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          8 months ago

          …Do you not realize that the same goes for god?

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            I wasn’t arguing for the existence of god.

            Let me break this down:

            • “There is a god.” --> Burden of proof
            • “There is no god.” --> Burden of proof
            • “Hey, man. I don’t know.” —> No burden of proof
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              The second one is wrong, there is no god is not a claim that requires evidence in the same way there are no fairies in my fridge doesn’t require evidence

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                Negative claims require evidence.

                Otherwise a safety engineer can go to a regulator and say “There are no structural issues with this building.” He is claiming there are no issues, he needs to back that up with evidence.

                Your Jedi mind tricks won’t work on me. 😜

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                  That’s making a positive claim about a negative outcome. “There is enough evidence to be confident there aren’t structural problems” is what they’re really saying.

                  This doesn’t work for god because there’s nothing to check, there’s never been any evidence for god, but there’s been plenty of evidence for structural issues existing.