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    Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn’t the perfect name but it’s more memorable than kbin.

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      Speaking about names. What the hell is a “magazine”?? It’s like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.

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        Holy shit it all makes sense now! I’ve been seeing posts and comments randomly talking about magazines for ages now with absolutely no idea what any of them are going on about. Didn’t realise it was a Kbin thing. That’s one of the downsides of Federation I suppose, sometimes shit just gets weird.

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        Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

        Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.

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          Community is descriptive though, they’re literally communities centered around some topic. Magazine only works in a much more abstract sense.

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            I think you can easily make arguments either way. Which is why it’s a moot point. For example, you could argue magazines make more sense because we’re consuming this media in written form, and it’s collected together by subject, like a magazine.

            Community is fine too, it’s descriptive in the sense that it’s a literal to the purpose. It’s the same as calling the site itself “forum” or something like that.

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            Nothing wrong with community, the point is Lemmy created the term the same as Kbin created magazine. Not every microblogging site in the fediverse calls them “toots” for example.

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              Yeah but community does a good job of explaining what it is conceptually with a word everyone understands, while being “vendor neutral” as it were.

              “magazine” tells me fuck all, I’m not even certain what it’s supposed to be.

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        What the hell is a “magazine”??

        It’s the part of a gun you load the ammunition into, but that’s not important right now.

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          Microblogs are like posts on Mastodon. They’re “toots”. Kbin federates with thread-based fediverse instances and microblog based ones like Mastodon. (I don’t think Lemmy does this?)

          Kbin calling them microblogs is actually basically the equivalent of Lemmy’s term communities in the sense that their both literal descriptions.

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      Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.

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      Also, Lemmy is pronounceable, like Jimmy or any other name. How many syllables is kbin? Four individual letters?

      Also also, “Lemmy World” can be said out loud in polite company. Shit just doesn’t work.

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        It would be pronounced “kaybin”. Like the Linux directory /sbin. It’s basically a name technical people would appreciate in a pun sort of way.

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          Okay, thank you. “Kaybin” is pronounceable - when you know this.

          I am not very familiar with Linux. Can you tell me what /sbin means? And if kbin is a nod to that, then what does the “k” mean?

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      Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

      Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

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      Not for me. I know PHP and not Rust, so if I want to go somewhere that I have a chance of contributing to, that narrows it down.

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        Fair enough.

        I suppose there is something nice about a low barrier-to-entry codebase, but I’d be weary of getting inundated with low quality PRs and spend all my time on code reviews. Maybe that’s unrealistic, but I haven’t seen that nearly as often outside of Python and JS projects

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    I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there’s more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.

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      Same for me. Pure laziness.

      I already put in a lot of time to figure this out, I need to rest for a bit before I jump into kbin.

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      I’ll agree that calling communities “magazines” is weird.

      The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. “Sub” took on it’s own meaning after Reddit.

      “Fetch” still isn’t happening, so we’ll see.

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      I’ve tried lemmy, kbin and mastodon, bit i find lemmy the most intuitive. 🤷

      They all have there place and maybe that’s the best thing, that one will get the need of someone.

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    People started talking about the reddit API change and named lemmy as an alternative. So that’s the one I checked out. Didn’t here of kbin til I was already here.

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      This. It shouldn’t matter anyway as long as you’re on a properly federated instance.

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    I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.

    It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.

    on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.

    also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.

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    Lemmy is the first one I heard about, and that’s where I made my account. Kbin is also a much newer project, so I’m less confident that it’ll be around in the mid-to-long term future than lemmy.world, and I’d rather not have to make a new account.

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    I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would’ve been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it

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      That’s actually a negative for me, I don’t see how Mastodon UI would merge in a useful way with Lemmy UI for me. It’s like while I used to use reddit and discord for some communities, the reddit chat was completely uninteresting.

      I am in such a different frame of mind between lemmy and Mastodon.

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        yeah I have two accs rn. I end up spending way more time on lemmy- mostly cuz I’m having a hard time finding content on masto if that makes sense? On lemmy I can sort all/new and see a ton of posts to upvote and comment on, but I don’t know how to just explore on masto ^^; 9 times out of 10 I end up seeing the same posts over and over again

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    I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.

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      Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can’t even use it because it’s flying downwards?

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        Yep but they say it’s going to be fixed so that’s a temporary problem luckily.

        Also it’s not a bug, it’s a leftover from the slow days of Lemmy. Meant that you could leave it at the top of the page and it would work like an auto update feed. Now the speed of new posts is too high.

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        Either that or the ranking issue on hot/active sort (days old posts staying at the top, a bug which is fixed in the next release of Lemmy).

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    Personally using Lemmy as I find the interface, syntax (linking users and communities), and deployment easy to use.

    Also I personally want to contribute to Lemmy and learning Rust is a high priority in my personal and work life.