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      people will sell insurance for just about anything. for example, you can buy alien abduction insurance that will pay out if you are abducted by aliens.

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      How does that work? You can’t insure yourself against perpetrating a crime.

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        This is for churches, not specific ministers. Businesses are allowed to insure themselves against their employees committing crimes.

        But the fact that abuse and molestation in the church is so common that this is something remotely entertained is absurd.

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          Aah, okay. That makes sense. I mean it’s insane but it makes more sense than an individual being able to insure themselves in case they commit a crime.

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        AFAIK its some kind of insurance to prevent bankruptcy of finantial doom after having a legal case for child abuse.

        Its one of the most fucked up distopian shit ever.

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          Correct this is civil liability insurance for lawsuits, basically. You can’t put businesses/organizations in jail but you can find them liable for damages. This would pay for lawyers and a certain maximum of court-ordered penalties, same as liability insurance for if someone slips and falls on a wet puddle in your store.

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          Honestly it’s probably depressingly low. It’s hard to prove and get justice especially as a private plaintiff who doesn’t have the resources of a district attorney, and the payout would be for suffering which juries aren’t great at calculating a value for.

          Hopefully that will change and there will be much more pressure on these trusted institutions to behave.

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      Drag queens are seen by the conservative right in the USA as a problem regarding sexual assault of children.

      Meanwhile not only does a pastor/priest go down for molestation on like a weekly basis but it’s so bad that churches actually have the ability to buy insurance to cover them selves when it turns out their pastor likes 'em young.

      Drag shows don’t need molestation insurance because they’re not fucking kids like republicans love to pretend.

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        And let’s be clear: the biggest risk for abuse is when a trusted individual has private ongoing access to a vulnerable person, and thinks they can get away with it.

        Random performers in public are not trusted, parents are present and supervising. Priests, summer camp councilors, cops, politicians, and other family members are “trusted.”

        Random performers do not have ongoing access: they hardly know anyone’s first names let alone their last name or where they live. They have an anonymous audience. The people mentioned above can and do have ongoing access.

        People in positions of power can often find ways to get away with crimes. A performer in public, especially in the LGBT+ community, knows they’d be the scapegoat of anything going wrong especially in this climate and would be foolish to try anything.

        Worry about the documented and ongoing abuses from powerful people (like, say, everyone who’s ever met Epstein) and maybe look into whoever’s wearing the Chuck E Cheese outfit (can’t see their face, don’t trust em) before worrying about well known marginalized people doing fun outreach story time in public with parents present.

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          Priests, summer camp councilors, cops, politicians, and other family members are “trusted.”

          Exactly. In most cases, the molestor of a child is their family member, teacher, priest or such. Not some guy in a dress and makeup reading fairytales.

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        I figured it out now - I missed ‘MinistryInsured’ - but this is the response that would’ve answered it for me, thanks :)

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      That the mainstream is hand-wringing about drag queens reading books in libraries when holy fucking shit clergy and cops are real huge problems on a daily basis everywhere

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        ? I mean what’s the caption referring to? “Drag queens don’t have to deal with sex abuse insurance?”

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          Yep. Are you not aware of the current situation where governments are trying to ban drag and trans people to “protect the kids” when in fact what kids demonstrably need protection from is priests and cops?

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        Image, graphic, or in your case pie chart with caption intended for an emotional reaction, my good lad.