All the content, none of the Spez? Or, is it better if Lemmy stays distinct?

  • toofarapart@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I think the community is much more important than just having more content. I would worry that by flooding Lemmy with Reddit’s content without the community to support that content could drown everyone out.

    • PotjiePig@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Yeah I agree. I think being able to tweak a personalised scraper as an opt in service per community could work. Some subs just won’t work for this, like askreddit and Eli5, but niche communities, news communities and information communities. I would be happy just seeing the top 2 or 3 posts of the day for some, and for world news for example, only the posts that pass a certain threshold of upvotes in a certain time or against the subs size, to make sure the real news pops up quick.

  • atlasraven31@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    If I wanted to lurk Reddit, I would just do that. Better to stay your separate thing. It is nice to sometimes get news about the other side of the fence.

  • Shrek
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    2 years ago

    I would rather have content posted by humans. Lemmy doesn’t need to be reddit anyway.

  • ShoePaste
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    2 years ago

    Nah. This is a fresh start. It’s been less than a week and theres already so much more content. It’ll grow soon enough. Especially with spez fucking around over there. We want og content here, not all the shit reposts that already plague reddit

  • gina@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    I think it’s like breaking up with someone and then dedicating yourself to building a weird, soulless android version of your ex.

  • withersailor@aussie.zone
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    2 years ago

    Thoughts: Content is good atm. If it’s spammy it’ll get blocked. Or the instance de-federated. Is going to Reddit boosting reddit or draining it by using the content. Reddit has a lot of bad content that Lemmy is free of.

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    2 years ago

    I think reposting content from reddit is fine, but we don’t need a bot for it. I’d rather see individuals bring over specific posts they think are notable as opposed to automatically copying everything they’ve got.

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    2 years ago

    In general, I really do not like this idea. Lemmy is Lemmy and should not, directly or indirectly, turn into Reddit.

  • fubo@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    If you wanna write code to do this … I’d say skip the bot, write a gateway instead.

    Back in the early days of email, there were lots of different email systems, not just the SMTP Internet email we use today. There was UUCP email with “bang paths”, where your email address specified a list of servers that a message could be passed through to get to you. There were other networks like FidoNet and WWIVnet, that could send email to Internet email addresses through special “gateway” servers.

    A gateway receives messages using one protocol or service, and retransmits or makes them available on another protocol or service.

    For a little while in 1992, I had access to read Usenet posts only through a gateway that exported Usenet posts onto the Gopher system.

    A gateway between Reddit and Lemmy would appear to Reddit as a web browser, scraping posts and comments; while appearing to Lemmy as a Lemmy instance that users could subscribe to, making each subreddit it scrapes available as a Lemmy community.

    So a Lemmy user could subscribe to, say, !askreddit@reddittolemmy.com and see a fresh view of AskReddit. The server at reddittolemmy.com would not be a standard Lemmy server with users, but rather a custom gateway server that fetches data from Reddit and makes it available in the form of a Lemmy community.

    (If Reddit were not being an asshole, a gateway could be an API client. But Reddit is being an asshole, so a gateway should probably be written as a scraper that accesses Reddit as if it were a normal user using a desktop Web browser.)

    • PotjiePig@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      This is a great idea.

      I don’t particularly think the whole of Reddit needs to be scraped though. I could be happy with only scraping posts that pass a certain thresh hold of votes against the subreddits subscriber count and maybe getting those crossposted to the Lemmy equivalent communities that want to opt in to such a service. This would be especially useful for World News and the more niche subreddits that don’t yet have a big enough userbase here

      • fubo@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        The hard part isn’t describing which posts or comments need to be gatewayed.

        The hard part is being able to deliver posts and comments across the gateway at all.

  • Hedup@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Use what fediverse is good at. Make an instance where these bots reside and anyone who doesn’t want them can just defederate.

  • promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi
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    2 years ago

    Good question! I dont really know how I’d feel about this.

    On the one hand, for me to be ok with it it needs to be CLEAR that its a bot reposting reddit content, maybe even if its limited to specific communities for the sake of archiving.

    On the other, I do want lemmy to be distinct and I am curious to see where it will end up. I also feel like we shouldn’t be trying to emulate reddit exactly, as that would mean we also get the crappy parts as well. Also, that would be limiting. Who knows what lemmy can become? Why limit it to being reddit 2.0, you know?