"Beehaw has now defederated from 2 of the biggest/most active Lemmy instances" on Hexbear
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"At this point, Beehaw seems to not want to federate. They defederated from Lemmy.world and shitjustworks. Both can be found on the join-lemmy page. They have defederated from the most communities at like 352 lol. Shitjustworks and Lemmy World don't even have that much of a culture difference with Beehaw from what I see. Shitjustworks also bans lemmygrad. Lemmyworld hasn't tho (and honestly might not, it's been 2 weeks and nothing has happened on that front) Essentially, they don't like their open registration policy and the increase in users... I have never seen such an argument before but lol. If I am not mistaken Lemmy.world is the community with the most active users and 2nd amount of total users (behind Lemmy.ml). Idk the numbers behind shitjustworks but it was near the top. I can't confirm the exact numbers since the tools to verify user count are down atm. For more info here is the Beehaw post : https://beehaw.org/post/567170 Even the Libs at kbin don't have the best words https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/22329/Beehaw-defederating-from-lemmy-world-and-sh-itjust-works"

    • GONADS125@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      There are plenty of ex-redditors on lemmy.world (myself included) who think the beehaw instance is way too restrictive and overly sensitive. Don’t like the no downvote thing either. In fact, many ex-redditors have complained about that.

      There’s a lot of people who have left beehaw after the defederation, and I think it’s only particular types of redditors who are attracted to the way that’s being run. The 4 mods thought they could recreate default subreddits and moderate it all by themselves.

      I think you’re generalizing way too much, and giving too much credit to us redditors. Most of us ended up in instances by chance. I saw a lot of people recommend beehaw but I didn’t like the atmosphere and randomly settled on lemmy.world instead.

      I’m still figuring things out, but I’m happy where I landed. No plans on going back to reddit either. I also think that ex-redditors need to stop trying to make lemmy reddit. It doesn’t need to be a clone.

  • PunsNRoses@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    27·
    1 year ago

    They’re inhaling lethal amounts of copium in the comments of the original beehaw thread.

    “thE aBilItY fOr instANCES To dEFedErate Is THe PoinT ActUaLLy”

    • 0x4E4F@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      Yes, but that beats the whole essence of the “everyone’s connected and can connect to anyone” fediverse selling point.

      The solution is simple. You don’t like a community? Block it. You don’t like a user? Block him/her. Defederating is not the solution and beats the whole point of having a fediverse.

      I’m currently juggling with 5 accounts because of this very reason. I had another reason to do so on reddit (multiple personalities, lol), but if you ask me, this reason is just stupid 😒.

  • savoy@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    25·
    1 year ago

    The anti-authoritarian brigade tends to be the most “authoritarian” when push comes to shove

  • bulbasaur@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    idgi aren’t there already like a bunch of fash reddit alternatives? Why don’t they just go to one of those?

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    151·
    1 year ago

    Lmao they did it. Good riddance.

    Essentially, they don’t like their open registration policy and the increase in users… I have never seen such an argument before but lol.

    Wait, didn’t they constantly spam reddit and lemmy “come to Beehaw”? And now they are picky?

    • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Leave Reddit!

      …

      Not like that!

      They probably took the Reddit population at face value, not realising that so much of Reddit is either curated or controlled so that only reactionary views come through.

      When people have the freedom to say what they want without the five eyes fiddling with the algorithm, leading brigades, or outright deleting progressive and revolutionary-leaning content, the discourse and culture look very different.

      I’m not surprised that ordinary people won’t generally fall for the beehaw sales pitch. But they clearly don’t expect to ever see contradictory views.

  • 133arc585English
    1·
    1 year ago

    It really does say a lot that they are deriving more value from within an echo chamber, where they are only seeing beliefs and opinions they either already agree with or find acceptable, than they do by being exposed to a variety of beliefs and opinions. It really helps convince me that uniformity is preferred over diversity (the only “diversity” allowed is that which is within certain bounds and only certain parameters can vary). It also says a lot that they are lying to themselves and each other about the motivation: I keep seeing the “human rights abuse supporter” and “trolling” excuses. I keep saying this, but the most aggression, personal attacks, disregard for real discussion, and trolling I’ve seen has been from people on those servers which have defederated with lemmygrad.

    Edit to add: Seeing psycopathic stuff like this thrown around like it’s nothing or normal still genuinely blows my mind:

    I look forward to watching more of your ilk squirm and squeal

    Deriving enjoyment from the discomfort of others is not normal behavior.

    • redditors_re_racistEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      yep, liberalism went from being the end of history ideology to being under siege in every possible facet within 20-30 years. of course the people with the most brainworms are now locking everything down trying to enforce what was never theirs to begin with.