Which major instances are know for having or not having censorship?

  • waigl@lemmy.world
    231·
    2 years ago
    1. Almost every instance will almost certainly filter illegal content in their respective jurisdictions, and those that don’t might not be around for long.
    2. There is a modlog. Just click on it, and you will see what gets removed.
  • Pisck
    12·
    2 years ago

    This is where the transparency that comes with FOSS vs private corp really shines. You can always check an instance’s modlog to see for yourself where lines are drawn.

    • Soullioness@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      Neat, but I’m having a hard time understanding the information on there… Is it instance wide? Or federated? Can I narrow my results by community?

      • ColonelPanic
        2·
        2 years ago

        The modlog is always per instance. I don’t think you can filter by community yet.

      • Pisck
        2·
        2 years ago

        It is the modlog for the instance in the link (lemmy.ml, in the link I provided). <-- edit: I just looked and I’m now second-guessing myself on this

        I think the only filter option is by user.

  • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
    169·
    2 years ago

    BeeHaw will supposedly censor what they deem to be “hate speech”

    I’ve heard reports about lemmy.ml censoring criticism of the CCP. how true this is i don’t know. One of the devs apparently also runs Lemmygrad

    • Pisck
      4·
      2 years ago

      Censorship of CCP criticism would be in the modlog if it were true. I’ve only been here a couple weeks but the only things I see the admins refuse to tolerate are racism, homophobia, and hate speech in general. They don’t allow porn but that has more to do with practical challenges than any (expressed) problem with other people wanting it.

        • Pisck
          1·
          2 years ago

          Wow - thank you for sharing that. There are aspects of this instance I don’t love, but banning over shadow rules is enough for me to consider just going elsewhere.

  • chris@l.roofo.cc
    52·
    2 years ago

    What is censorship for you? I mean do you want to have an instance that deletes nothing?

        • carrot@sh.itjust.works
          54·
          2 years ago

          A place where no one is policing what people can say? Sign me up!

          Censorship only applies to people you dont like saying things you dont like. Eventually it’ll be turned on you.

          • chris@l.roofo.cc
            31·
            2 years ago

            Some things should be deleted because they are bad for the community as a whole. Harassment, threats, doxxing, calls for violence. You honestly wouldn’t want someone to delete a post with “@carrot@sh.itjust.works lives at XXX. Let’s get together and beat him to death”? And if that doesn’t faze you I can tell you that most people are not like that. So the place you are imagining would be a very small community very fast. Apart from that there is the problem of illegal content and defederation.

            • carrot@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              2 years ago

              I think there’s an obvious difference between doxxing and calls to violence and “I dont like x.” Words and thoughts cannot do harm, and the only way to defeat bad logic is with good logic. No one will change their mind if you censor them, it only gives them more power. If you actually want people to think differently, you have to have an open forum for discussion. And unless you can allow others the same right to free speech as you, you cant expect the same to be given back to you.

              • chris@l.roofo.cc
                31·
                2 years ago

                Well that means you don’t want a place where nothing is deleted. That’s all I wanted to find out.

              • chris@l.roofo.cc
                2·
                2 years ago

                I see the similarity but no. I am for free speech but I am also for the right to deny a platform. Now I see the point in trying to find a place that aligns with one’s values. Maybe a place that allows NSFW content vs one that doesn’t or political affiliation. Still these places will usually moderate some content e.g. harassment or illegal things. So apart from the fact that there is probably no place that deletes nothing I am wondering: What would one want to post that is so controversial that one had to find a place that deletes nothing.

    • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      2 years ago

      I mean, deleting content is, by definition, censorship. Not all censorship is bad. For example, I think everyone here wants spam to be censored. Let’s not change the definitions of words :)

      • chris@l.roofo.cc
        2·
        2 years ago

        I don’t want to change the meaning. I was just trying to find out if OP really means that: in instance that deletes nothing.