• JapanStar49@infosec.pub
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    Not the person you responded to, but I’m in the US (which technically does have a border with Russia). At least in the state I grew up in, the education system definitely had anti-communist propaganda in the schools.

    You don’t have to support Russia, but you shouldn’t deny facts. It’s well-known that the Azov Battalion has Nazis prevalent.

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      Not just azov, also aidar, tornado, the territorial defense units, the SBU, a shitload o UA soldiers run around with UPA patches, so them too…

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      I think there’s a big misconception in the west that it was leftist that kicked out Viktor Yanukovych. The anti-government protests in 2013-2014 were led by straight up neo-nazis. The wiki for the movement even lists the groups.

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      As I replied in somewhere else in this thread “There are right-wing removed in every army, in every nation. Weirdly enough fascists and nationalists love to join the army hmmmm”

      But let me rephrase “neighbouring countries” as ex-ussr countries. They’re all lining up to join Russia again.

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        There are right-wing removed in every army, in every nation. Weirdly enough fascists and nationalists love to join the army hmmmm

        Sure, but you’re conveniently ignoring the issue of prevalence. As an extreme example, do you think the US military and Nazi Germany had the same amount of Nazis?

        They’re all lining up to join Russia again.

        Even Ukraine? Wouldn’t you think they’d embrace Putin with open arms then instead of bothering to fight back then?

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          As an extreme example, do you think the US military and Nazi Germany had the same amount of Nazis?

          I’m on your side for the rest of the post, but this example isn’t great imo. The US is absolutely a Nazi country, they were just more successful in their settler genocide. They literally have the largest prison pop in the whole world, full of impoverished people of color who are literally enslaved. Many in prison are sterilized against their will. They have for generations killed millions and millions of people abroad to stop communism and immiserate and expropriate those populations. Like I could go on, but Nazi Germany was inspired by the US. They even said the US went a little too far. The US won the war and is the most powerful country on the planet, so they wrote the history and they control the media narrative, so we can pretend like the Germans were worse

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          The part about everyone lining up to join Russia was sarcastic. No ex-ussr country wants to go back to how things were.

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            You know nothing, it must be difficult as a 15 year old Western kid to think you can speak for Eastern Europeans.

            Best case scenario you’re Polish or Hungarian, and have guzzled stories from your fascist grandparents about the horrors of the Union.

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              My Eastern European family had to flee Ukraine when the Nazis decided to slaughter their entire town during the Holocaust. I’m sure it was just terrible for the Nazis left behind to have Communists come in, so sad

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            “Soviet Union bad” So you’d rather those dirty subhuman asiatics stayed uncivilized and barbaric instead of becoming the second-strongest world power? Are we a little… afraid?

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              “dirty subhuman asiatics”, “uncivilized and barbaric” are you ok? holy shit

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                Maybe all those articles I wrote for the China Bad Times is rubbing off on my actual speech patters.

                But screw you anyways, you ultra or demsoc or whatever you are.

                Edit: you’re probably a demsoc.

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                  Comrade, your articles are kinda redundant now, you just need to go see people at beehaw, blahaj or .world and they make prof. Krak Pott look like real intellectualist.

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                    I tried to top them off once, but it wouldn’t let me post because of slurs 💀 But yeah I might just put a link to beehaw in there or something.

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            You mean when life expectancy was higher and alcoholism was lower?

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            My Eastern European family had to flee Ukraine when the Nazis decided to slaughter their entire town during the Holocaust. I’m sure it was just terrible for the Nazis left behind to have Communists come in, so sad