As an anarchist, i personally strongly disagree. Yes what can be automated should be automated: for example using wind/watermills for mechanical work.
However, most “jobs” are non productive and therefore entirely useless or outright detrimental to humanity (cops? marketing? accounting?). Trying to automate everything in a capitalist structure will not produce more justice, and we certainly don’t need electronics and robots to share labor and resources more equally.
Also worth noting: if you’re refering to robotization, that electronics require tons of slave labor and produce considerable amounts of pollution. The startup nation promoting farming bots is just a dystopian dreams that will not fix problems for anyone (i could elaborate if you’re curious).
I never mentioned any capitalist structure, jobs that exist merely to support a speculative bourgeoisie dictatorship should be abolished
Well, automation involves robotization, too, and while there may be waste produced by the creation to them, it’s worth noting that if you invest in scientific research to find the most effective way to live while applying these measures a green path can be find.
jobs that exist merely to support a speculative bourgeoisie dictatorship should be abolished
Cool. I just think it doesn’t go without saying :)
Well, automation involves robotization, too
I don’t think so. I mean you can achieve automation with robotization, but that’s not the only way, like in the windmill example. I also don’t think trying to robotize everything first then trying to find a “greener” way is a good approach: where has it taken us so far? Electronic devices are everywhere and their ecological impact keeps growing, and we are still no closer (if not much farther) from green electronics than we were a few decades ago.
If you think about it, electronic devices from the 80s were rather simple components and easily repairable. So even when something broke down, you could always change a single part (minor ecological impact). And overall, much less materials were involved in building them, which meant less extractivism, and more possibilities for recycling.
As an anarchist, i personally strongly disagree. Yes what can be automated should be automated: for example using wind/watermills for mechanical work.
However, most “jobs” are non productive and therefore entirely useless or outright detrimental to humanity (cops? marketing? accounting?). Trying to automate everything in a capitalist structure will not produce more justice, and we certainly don’t need electronics and robots to share labor and resources more equally.
Also worth noting: if you’re refering to robotization, that electronics require tons of slave labor and produce considerable amounts of pollution. The startup nation promoting farming bots is just a dystopian dreams that will not fix problems for anyone (i could elaborate if you’re curious).
I never mentioned any capitalist structure, jobs that exist merely to support a speculative bourgeoisie dictatorship should be abolished
Well, automation involves robotization, too, and while there may be waste produced by the creation to them, it’s worth noting that if you invest in scientific research to find the most effective way to live while applying these measures a green path can be find.
Cool. I just think it doesn’t go without saying :)
I don’t think so. I mean you can achieve automation with robotization, but that’s not the only way, like in the windmill example. I also don’t think trying to robotize everything first then trying to find a “greener” way is a good approach: where has it taken us so far? Electronic devices are everywhere and their ecological impact keeps growing, and we are still no closer (if not much farther) from green electronics than we were a few decades ago.
If you think about it, electronic devices from the 80s were rather simple components and easily repairable. So even when something broke down, you could always change a single part (minor ecological impact). And overall, much less materials were involved in building them, which meant less extractivism, and more possibilities for recycling.