Hey there! I would consider myself heavily anti-china, possibly because I spent too much time listening to western anti-china propaganda. Since this community seems to be mainly pro-china, I thought this should be a good place to clear up some misconceptions I might have. There are some issues which are repeatedly used to draw the picture of Chinese dystopia. A few of these points are:
- The proclaimed genocide of Uighurs in Xinjiang.
- Heavy restrictions of freedom of speech. It seems really dangerous to be publicly critical of the CCP; There is no chinese newspaper criticizing the works of the CCP, also it is forbidden to access foreign newspapers.
- Along with the freedom of speech go restrictions of political freedom. “The most recent major movement advocating for political freedom was obliterated through the Tiananmen Square Massacre in 1989”. (Wikipedia quote) There also are many recent examples of people disappearing after publicly expressing differing political views.
- Mass-surveillance of citizens. Anything the citizens do seems to be recorded. Appearently even saying anything anti-CCP on WeChat can have you imprisoned and a low credit score can make it impossible for you to leave the country (along with other restrictions of freedom).
- The planned occupation of Taiwan and Hong Kong. At least in the case of Hong Kong there is some justification due to the completely stupid 99-year-lease, but china being so offensive about annexing Taiwan seems odd.
I would be happy to see what the pro-china views on these claims are. I realized that one could argue that claims 1-4 are simply made up or at least presented overly problematic in western media. If this is your whole point, don’t bother to answer.
I’m looking forward to your responses!
Regarding the South China Sea, it is worth noting that this is partially due to China’s own violation of other country’s territorial claims based on some pretty suspect logic.
That is an issue which the countries in the region should resolve among themselves. The United States (located thousands of kilometers away), has no business to operate warships there. Imagine if China or Russia did “freedom of navigation exercises” near Hawaii or Puerto Rico.
Hmmmm. Imagine Hawaii was an autonomous, socialist state with it’s own government, openly demanding support from China or Russia. If the US threatened to invade Hawaii within the next five years, surely Russia and China would come to help, and rightfully so!
The USA already invaded Hawaii, overthrowing the legal head of state in a coup at the behest of American businesses. Bad example, dude. Astonishingly bad example.
American international policy is a shitshow, no question. I was just trying to say that supporting Taiwan in defending against china is justified.
It’s just with such a bizarrely selected example it baffles me. It’s kind of brazen to use a literal theft as the go-to example while illustrating the moral high ground.
Personally, I think China should support Hawaiian and Puerto Rican independence, funnelling money and arms to separatists there just for shits and giggles. And be as brazen about it as the CIA was in Tibet and is in Xinjiang without even bothering to deny it.
“You’re funding separatists!”
“Yes. It amuses us.”