This is the writing of a “Marxist” anti-vaxxer. They obviously (and somewhat reasonably) don’t listen to mainstream media, so it’s more difficult.

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    No thanks. How about I debunk you? You’re a communist and you think it’s only “somewhat reasonable” to not listen to mainstream media? That’s hilarious. Why would anyone listen to western media on any issue including Covid?

    The Great Barrington Declaration, which has been signed by over 60,000 medical scientists and doctors including at Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford, argued that lockdowns would do more harm than good. The press ignored it and we now know Twitter was suppressing it.

    Are we really not taking these claims seriously about an experimental technology that was rushed through the regulatory process at the FDA without any of the usual safeguards? And ignoring the fact that companies like Pfizer made billions off of it while our taxes foot the bill? It’s convenient that these vaccines require booster after booster after booster. Who are mandates really good for?

    Remember that the media used to call you an anti-vaxxer if you brought up the fact that mRNA causes myocarditis. Now the CDC is warning about it and the press still downplays it. The data shows, you are at virtually no risk from Covid if you are young; the myocarditis risk is higher, meaning you are less safe if you get the jab, not to mention the boosters. Again, this is proven by peer-reviewed studies. But the press and big pharma want to flip the picture for profit.

    So no wonder people would be against mandating a medical treatment with proven side effects at a University, which is predominantly young people who are more at risk. Time to stop being a liberal and get your head out of your ass. Stop hiding behind the media to make your arguments and big tech to do suppression of information for you.

    I was way wrong about Covid to the point where I was entertaining Noam Chomsky’s idea when he wanted to sequester the unvaccinated. I’m vaxxed, boosted, social distanced, masked, avoided travel to see family, the whole nine yards. But I don’t get so butthurt when I’m proven wrong about something that I can’t change my opinion. It’s time for big pharma marxists to get over themselves.

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      These kinds of takes are only possible by hyper-individualized westerners, who have to completely ignore the success of China’s lockdowns (and their extremely low death rates because of it), and exclude it from their analysis.

      Medicine and medical science exists outside the united states and its pharma companies.

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        I don’t exclude China’s successes. But you are nuts if you think that could work in the US. What China did was incredible. Lockdown for 2 weeks to stop the spread, ensuring zero covid. Then for the rest of the pandemic, everyone can go to concerts and water parks in crowds.

        What you got in the US was administrative frustration that the social fabric of the US was not more cohesive, so they decided to punish EVERYONE for it by locking down for a year, even though no one is at fault, it’s just the system.

        Also, you are a westerner too, I’m not sure why you are dismissing my opinion based on my identity, you sound like this:

        Maybe make an actual point.

        Medicine and medical science exists outside the united states and its pharma companies.

        You really discount the power of imperialism and the WHO.
        By the way, Cuba’s Abdala vaccine doesn’t even use mRNA! It’s a traditional vaccine that actually works! I want it here! Thank you for proving my point. No one wants this mRNA shit unless it is being forced on them.

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        You don’t know how to read.

        1. The study you gave splits into only two age groups. Younger than 40, and older than 40. The topic was college students. Most are in their early 20s and can’t be lumped in a study with middle aged people.
        2. The risk from Covid infection is irrelevant when only 5,000 people a day get Covid in the US. Edit: During the period of the Circulation study was the first winter surge and the Delta surge 2 years ago.
        3. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting Covid, it definitely didn’t for me even after 3 doses. So you can’t paint this as a pick your poison type scenario. If you are unvaccinated, you face the health risks from the infection. But if you are vaccinated, you face health risks from both the infection and the vaccine.
        4. Even this study shows higher risk of myocarditis after the second jab and even higher after the booster. That’s where I quit Moderna. But we are now onto bivalent 1 and bivalent 2 on the way. That’s 5 shots after we have established a trend of increasing risk after each shot.

        Basically, your sources do not make your point for you.

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      The only arguments you can use legitimately are that:

      1. boosters cause harm, weakening the body beyond its ability to deal with the antibodies generated using first two doses. This is a well vetted effect, causing many countries to mandate only the initial two doses. The first two doses are ample to develop resistance against all variants of COVID except for the harmless Omicron variant as it stands (which even ended up spreading in China).

      2. the effectiveness of USA/UK made vaccines was purposely inflated in media for profit generating purposes, compared to Indian/Chinese/Russian vaccines. In the end, Indian and Chinese inactivated strain based vaccines have been the safest with just as high effective rate.

      3. we all saw the nonsense USA and Western countries claimed about origins of COVID being manmade in China. Later, the Lancet commission report debunked it with 2 years of research, and western media was quick to call them a “shameful” organisation.

      Lockdowns have been very much effective in containing the spread and decreasing the fatality presented by Alpha, Delta and Delta plus variants. It is the key difference between USA suffering ~10 million deaths while China saved ~15 million lives. (Obviously people partying at beaches and clubs instead of making lockdown effective is the core reason, besides misinformation people calling it a flu, which could perhaps only be said about Omicron variant practically.)