Cloudflare DNS has DoH, but it’s Cloudflare so… ew. Is there one that is more privacy respecting and also has DNS over HTTPS?

  • @AgreeableLandscapeOP
    3•3 years ago

    So Unbound skips the conventional DNS provider and goes straight to the TLD servers? Do the TLD servers themselves all have DoH or will anyone listening upstream of the network still be able to sniff the queries for what domains you’re accessing? In fact wouldn’t you stick out like a sore thumb as someone who isn’t a DNS provider querying TLD servers?

    • @southerntofu
      1•3 years ago

      Yes that’s how DNS resolution works. Any DNS resolver can either query another resolver (most commercial internet routers will query your ISP’s resolver), or resolve the domain name themselves by querying DNS servers from right to left in the domain name.

      For example, querying lemmy.ml involves:

      • querying ICANN root servers for ml DNS servers
      • querying ml DNS servers for lemmy
      • querying lemmy DNS servers for an IP address to connect to

      Recursive resolution is a feature of the DNS system which ensures distribution of power among actors, so a single bad actors, even when very high in the hierarchy, can’t have too much negative impact further down the chain. For example, if root servers are compromised, they couldn’t stop lemmy.ml from resolving: they could stop the whole of ml from resolving (because ml is part of the zone they have authority for) but nothing more. This aspect of DNS limits temptation of censorship.

      • @AgreeableLandscapeOP
        1•3 years ago

        Wouldn’t it still be plaintext though? Someone upstream the network (namely your ISP) datamining your network traffic would still be able to tell which domains you’re requesting, right?