Recently there have been some discussions about the political stances of the Lemmy developers and site admins. To clear up some misconceptions: Lemmy is run by a team of people with different ideologies, including anti-capitalist, communist, anarchist, and others. While @dessalines and I are communists, we take decisions collectively, and don’t demand that anyone adopt our views or convert to our ideologies. We wouldn’t devote so much time to building a federated site otherwise.

What’s important to us is that you follow the site rules and Code of Conduct. Meaning primarily, no-bigotry, and being respectful towards others. As long as that is the case, we can get along perfectly fine.

In general we are open for constructive feedback, so please contact any member of the admin team if you have an idea how to improve Lemmy.

Slur Filter

We also noticed a consistent criticism of the built-in slur filter in Lemmy. Not so much on lemmy.ml itself, but whenever Lemmy is recommended elsewhere, a few usual suspects keep bringing it up. To these people we say the following: we are using the slur filter as a tool to keep a friendly atmosphere, and prevent racists, sexists and other bigots from using Lemmy. Its existence alone has lead many of them to not make an account, or run an instance: a clear net positive.

You can see for yourself the words which are blocked (content warning, link here). Note that it doesn’t include any simple swear words, but only slurs which are used to insult and attack other people. If you want to use any of these words, then please stay on one of the many platforms that permit them. Lemmy is not for you, and we don’t want you here.

We are fully aware that the slur filter is not perfect. It is made for American English, and can give false positives in other languages or dialects. We are totally willing to fix such problems on a case by case basis, simply open an issue in our repo with a description of the problem.

  • southerntofu
    125·
    4 years ago

    Thanks for clarifying the position!

    You can see for yourself the words which are blocked

    I have two problems with the slur filter. First i believe it should be configurable on a per-instance basis because this filter won’t be applicable to other languages. Second i believe a word-based filter is highly to produce false positives, as has been the experience with every “NSFW filter” in existence so far.

    Maybe we don’t agree on that, but i don’t believe quoting/mentioning a word necessarily validates it. For example, how can i advertise an article that explicitly explains why these words are insulting without falling into the slur filter myself?

    I appreciate this is the policy of lemmy.ml as an instance, but i believe having it configurable would be better. For example, maybe users could be warned that using a slur their message will be moderated and only appear once it has been approved?

    • Maya
      91·
      4 years ago

      It is planned to make the filter work better with other languages when there’s proper language support. If it can be made to work with more context sensitivity, the devs are open to that – but it’s played a really important role in keeping Lemmy a friendly place just because of the kind of people it’s scared off, so I wouldn’t expect it to be made way more permissive in some way that would be attractive to the grosser parts of the internet.

      • southerntofu
        11·
        4 years ago

        it’s played a really important role in keeping Lemmy a friendly place just because of the kind of people it’s scared off

        Thanks for that, i truly appreciate it! See also this other thread for more on my concerns (my concerns is not that fascists are not welcome :P).

    • Bilb!
      31·
      4 years ago

      It is configurable by instance administrators. The source code is right there.

    • Bob_Bobington
      2·
      4 years ago

      shit, piss, fuck, cunt, removed, motherfucker and tits. Sorry, just testing the filter George Carlin style.