• DankZedong
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    132 years ago

    I mean it’s a massive country with lots of potential. If the imperial fascist regime falls, the USA will thrive and be amazing.

    • Soviet Snake
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      152 years ago

      US needs to be balkanized, it can’t remain in the same shape it is today. Even if you don’t take into account the multiple aboriginal tribes who owned the land, thanks to Santa Ana they stole a gigantic part of what US is today from Mexico.

    • Muad'Dibber
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      102 years ago

      It would be great, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon. I’ve lived in US cities that have hundreds of thousands of people, and communist parties there can’t scrape together 20 dedicated members.

      If there’s a list of the next 50 countries most likely to have a revolution, the US probably doesn’t even make the list.

      • @bleepingblorp@lemmygrad.ml
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        62 years ago

        Agreed. While we can organize or educate in the hopes some future generation uses some of what we build today, nothing good is likely to happen in my lifetime here. Unless a certain tendency is correct and our salvation lies with nuclear fire, I can see that feasibly happening in my lifetime but I’d rather the cost of my potential liberation NOT include the agonizing death of 6-7 billion people or more.

      • DankZedong
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        62 years ago

        Well those are some unfortunate numbers. Isn’t there an actual marxist party that is having a decent start? Or are they not that serious?

        • Muad'Dibber
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          There are a few good ML parties, I’m in one of them, but there are materialist reasons why communism isn’t popular in the imperial core. Even though poverty is fairly widespread, its still largely a parasitic country that’s mostly just consumer services, with little domestic industry left. Its median wages are still ~ 12x PPP-adjusted that of the average non-OECD worker. Most of its population is employed by the defense industry, retail, transportation, and medicine, most of those not being direct commodity production, which has implications for organizing.

          Individualism is in its DNA, from the way its neighborhoods and streets are structured, to its religion, sports, media, to the promise it offers to people who choose to become US citizens.

          The labor movement in the US had its height in the late 1800s-1930s, and it pretty much died by the 1970s and hasn’t recovered since. Books like “divided world divided class” get into this in more detail.