UPDATE: ADMIN STATEMENT IN COMMENTS


Leadership of Lemmy has dug in their heels and shown that they will be slow to remove overt homophobia, sexism, and transphobia on this platform. Administration will spend hours or days of effort defending these people to justify a ban that would be instant on other platforms.

You are not safe here. I recommend migrating to either Lemmygrad.ml or Hexbear.net (Hexbear being much less sectarian but the people on Lemmygrad are very cool 😎). Please take care out there. Fuck the patriarchy! Trans rights are human rights! ✊

Receipts:

https://lemmy.ml/post/470384/comment/276139

https://lemmy.ml/post/89596/comment/92129

https://lemmy.ml/post/470384/comment/275398

    • Seanchaí (she/her)
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      172 years ago

      Hello, I am a moderator of the trans community on lemmygrad, and I can assure you that LGBTQ people are absolutely safe there.

      This may be surprising, but there is actually a really crucial piece of understanding topics called “nuance.” For instance, colonial imperialism as promoted by the West is, in fact, the source of cisheteronormativity and the reason anti-LGBTQ sentiments are so present in society.

      Queer liberation in fact relies on the struggle to dismantle capitalism and imperialism. And as such, we can critically support any anti-imperialist struggles while at the same time criticizing queerphobia. Russia being against the US/Nato? That is ultimately good for queer people. Russia’s anti-queerness? Bad for queer people.

      If you’re actually interested in the topic of queer liberation through anti-imperialist and communist struggle, it’s more important to look at existing socialist states (Russia is not, it is capitalist, and thus, not a beacon for queer liberation) and their movements for queer liberation. One of the most powerful examples of this is Cuba. I could link you some reading if you are engaging in this topic in good faith, but if you’re just here to say lemmygrad and russia are bad and thus anti-LGBTQ, then I won’t bother.

        • This is again slander towards lemmygrad from sopuli. Lemmygrad is not an instance owned by Russia, nor is it paid by Russia, nor are we Russian agents.

          The fact that Russia is at war and we talk about it on Lemmygrad, sometimes positively, has absolutely nothing to do with our rules and members. This:

          it’s a bit weird when LGBTQ+ people would suggest being safe there – given how vehemently anti-LGBTQ Russia is.

          Is two different observations that have nothing to do with each other. A non sequitur. It’s like chastising vegans for eating at a restaurant that also has meat options.

          The dissonance here really is that sopuli and beehaw recruit by defaming Lemmygrad as if their instances had nothing to offer except anticommunism.

          If queer people say that they feel safe on Lemmygrad the only answer is “banger”. Not implying they’re not being logical or that we are Russian agents.

        • Seanchaí (she/her)
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          32 years ago

          So it’s dissonance for queer people to feel safe on lemmygrad (a forum that explicitly bans queerphobia) because of some positive sentiment for Russia in certain regards

          Meanwhile: Conversion therapy is legal in every European country except France and Malta

          Half of Europe still requires trans people to get sterilized. Most of Europe requires mental health diagnoses. Most don’t have anti-discrimination laws. Italy requires trans people to get divorced. Most of Europe doesn’t recognize trans parenthood. Iceland is the only European country that recognizes non-binary people.

          Don’t even get me started on what the UK and the US are doing about trans people. Would you like to read some articles about how “safe” queer people are in Ukraine?

          So does your instance allow pro-European conversation? Shouldn’t queer people feel unsafe in forums that say anything pro-US? Pro-Ukraine? Pro-EU?

          Or is it ridiculous to call that dissonance?

        • loathesome dongeater
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          22 years ago

          You talk like the instance is centred around Russia. Russia is just one of the many things the we talk about there.