• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    Taiwan is not an independent state, and there is no legal basis for that assertion. China has every legitimate claim over Taiwan and claiming otherwise is complete and utter nonsense that’s not based in reality. Even Taiwan has never considered itself as not being part of China. The historical contention was which was the legitimate government of all of China. I implore you to actually spend the time toe educate yourself on the subject if you’re going to keep arguing about it.

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      The claim is that the CPC has legitimate authority over the Taiwanese land. When did the CPC ever take that land? When has it ever governed it? Never. The CPC can wave around recognition they’ve gotten out of governments all they like. It doesn’t change that that is not how Taiwan is.

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        2 years ago

        Taiwan is a region of China. CPC is the legal government of China. Are those two facts so difficult to get into your head?

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          I get that’s what the CPC’s claim is. I just think it’s an incredibly faulty claim, given that they’ve never governed Taiwan. They’ve just said that they do.

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            2 years ago

            I just think

            Chinese people dont care what you think.

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              2 years ago

              Good for them. Going to go imperialist by invading a neighboring country that is no threat to them? Because that’s what this has become now. If they do this, all claims to be “anti-imperialist” become hollow and false.

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                Going to go imperialist by invading a neighboring country that is no threat to them?

                1. Not a country.

                2. War isn’t imperialism. Imperialism is an economic system, not just something you call any and all military action by any large country. Imperialism is an elevated form of capitalism in which finance-capital has evolved to become such a power that it merges with the state and uses all state powers in the pursuit of the expansion of capital abroad. Imperialism isn’t one specific action, it is an entire state of being of a country. Like capitalism, but at its highest stage.

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                invading a neighboring country

                Read the thread again. Not a neighboring country, but a region of China.

                If they do this, all claims to be “anti-imperialist” become hollow and false.

                China is rapidly becoming the most powerful and richest country in the world. No country will care about cheap slander from the collapsing US.

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                  2 years ago

                  Read the thread again. Not a neighboring country, but a region of China.

                  Feel free to keep that view, but I’m sticking with how people live their lives instead of how the CPC’s ideology wants things to be.

                  China is rapidly becoming the most powerful and richest country in the world.

                  China shouldn’t get too overconfident there. How’s the housing market? And the aging population?

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                    I’m sticking with how people live their lives instead of how the CPC’s ideology wants things to be.

                    People living in Taiwan are by and large happy with the status quo. Why are you trying to project your ideas on them? They don’t want independence, they want things to remain as they are. Why are you so insistent you know better than them?

                    How’s the housing market?

                    Considering 90% of people own their homes and Chinese cities never show up in most expensive cities in the world, it seems to be going great.

                    And the aging population?

                    As if that’s not a problem anywhere. Didn’t stop the US from becoming and being the richest and most powerful country for a long time.