Insulting or attacking other users, even so much saying “fuck you”, “fuck [this group of people]”, “you’re an idiot” or anything like that while debating IS against the rules of Lemmy.ml. This goes for every political view, you DO NOT get free passes no matter if you’re leftist, rightist, communist, anarchist, liberal, etc. If you’re confident of your position you should be able to debate in a civil manner without cursing someone else out. I understand that debates can get heated and frustrating, hell I’ve debated with a good bunch of users, but you can still express that without resorting to name calling or insults.

Check the modlog, we HAVE removed replies of this nature from every political view, and even if we don’t say it every time, we DO keep track of both removals per user and general behaviour even if it doesn’t get removed, and too many infractions WILL result in a ban.

That said, it is NOT against the rules to present countering facts or opinions, or to have political opinions in general. Don’t report comments for “being pro communist” or “being pro China” unless they have broken an actual rule, namely the ones about being civil. Don’t attack or insult people from Lemmygrad just because they’re from Lemmygrad or they’re arguing for Marxism-Leninism or supporting a country you don’t. If they’re presenting their points in a civil manner (which had been the case for almost everyone from Lemmygrad), you can either read it and respond in kind with your questions or counterpoints, or just move on. People coming over from other instances is not brigading if they’re mostly being civil, that’s the whole point of federation.

Things people disagree with getting down voted is also acceptable, it’s not considered an attack on you if your comment has a negative score, and it doesn’t even significantly affect the ranking because of the relatively low comment volumes currently on Lemmy. It’s just imaginary internet points, relax.

  • @AgreeableLandscapeOP
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    We have very different definitions for what bigrading is. Simply coming over and providing counterpoints is not brigading if they’re not cursing other people out. The whole point of federation is to allow other instances to interact.

    My only advice for being called “liberal” or “imperialist” is to not internalize them so much. Do you expect the admins to police every use of the term imperialist and liberal and remove any potentially inaccurate usage? I’ve been called plenty of things I’m definitely not for being a Marxist-Leninist, including a genocide and cultural cleansing supporter, also imperialist gets dropped on me too for whatever reason, but I honestly just don’t care and being called something I know I’m not is not going to shake my views.

    I’m not sure what else to tell you other than to block Lemmygrad users or use an instance that doean’t federate with them.

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      It really depends on how tightly or loosely we want civility to be enforced from above. Should we be removing all insults, or is that just too heavy-handed? That’s a big question, not one I have an answer to, but there are some communities that do say yes, using labels as an insult isn’t acceptable. I suspect lemmy.ml doesn’t want to be that strict, but somewhere like gtio.io that attempts serious discussion might see that boundary as constructive.

    • WiνΛlem OrtΛνíz
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      Simply coming over and providing counterpoints is not brigading

      I’m definitely not talking about that. I’m talking about people stating one-liner comments with no counter points and calling you “imperialist” or “liberal”, and throwing it at you like you are a murderer or CIA (which is the same).
      If you don’t see precisely what I’m talking about, too bad. Others will get that. And move to other instances like I did, sadly.

      I have nothing personnal against you though.

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          It’s exactly like calling someone a commie. A dumb unconstructive slur. If you’re doing that on a site where liberals are expected to be rejected offensively, like lemmygrad or chapo or leftypol, then sure, but lemmy.ml isn’t one of those places.

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            It’s exactly like calling someone a commie. A dumb unconstructive slur.

            About as dumb and “unconstructive” as these theatrics that you are engaging in, imo. That one gave me a real chuckle.

            (Btw, I dunno who convinced you that commie is a slur, but you can call us that if you like. I can’t imagine a single communist who would be offended by that).

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              Slurs don’t have to be successfully offensive to be slurs haha. I don’t care if someone calls me a commie pinko lefty, or anything worse for that matter. It’s about intent.

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        ‘Brigading’ is when someone gets a group of foreign users to mass-downvote or mass comment on a post. You can confirm this definition with a web search (“brigading forum”). What you’re describing is just low effort insulting (which of course is bad and not really acceptable on lemmy.ml in my opinion)