• @ZerushOP
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    12 years ago

    I’m quite old already, from times when the first computers still worked with punch cards that I saw the first time when he did military service. Naturally I know the old Opera, it was the first useful browser, until in the end it was sold and distorted by the Chinese. Vivaldi is a successor, pursuing the same original philosophy and I agree that it is not a browser for everyone, there will always be a browser for a certain advanced audience, professionals, students, researchers, etc., to which it really comes from pearls with its functionalities, but to use it only to read the mail, post on some social network, well it is something oversized, for this certainly serves any other browser, even the simplest, such as Min or Fifo, with search bar and little else. As I said, it depends on the needs of each one.

    Regarding uBO, if it has some advanced functions, apart from an integration in the contextual menu, which the Vivaldi blocker (yet) does not have, although it also does its job well, since it also allows you to add the filters you want. No browser with and without an app can do what TOR does, but this is because it does not work like a normal browser, naturally protects against fingerprinting, but on the other hand lacks other protections and functions, it is good for browsing on the onion, but many got an unpleasant surprise to do it without before using a VPN and being completely exposed. Surfing the open web with TOR seems to me to be a bit desperate.

    Trace does its job well by randomizing fingerprints and blocking other identification and tracking methods, cryptominers, header, CSS, pixel, fonts, etc. Although you have to look for a balanced configuration, since activating all the protections, prevents the operation of some pages, even when you add too many filters to the uBO or the Vivaldi blocker, which can also break some pages.

    • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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      -22 years ago

      Naturally I know the old Opera, it was the first useful browser, until in the end it was sold and distorted by the Chinese

      Incorrect. Opera’s free proxy VPN is the only “Chinese” thing about it, which you can opt to not use. And if you are already comfortable with any USA services and server connections, I do not see a problem with that free Chinese proxy either. I doubt Opera using Chromium as base, like Vivaldi, is Chinese. And I prefer no country, but I would hypothetically prefer China over USA for services, since one of them actively uses collected data in their military drones to kill civilians, according to former CIA director Michael Hayden.

      How to geek article from 2017

      It sounds like a lot of people got caught either practicing opsec badly, or having bad opsec in the first place. None of this has to do with Tor being a bad tool. It does not lack protections, if it is the user making mistakes.

      it is good for browsing on the onion, but many got an unpleasant surprise to do it without before using a VPN and being completely exposed. Surfing the open web with TOR seems to me to be a bit desperate.

      Using Tor with VPN is a common misinformation lore debunked enough times. If you mean people using Tor do not understand what or how to use Tor, then it is not the fault of Tor, once again. It is the fault of user not understanding the seriousness needed to use Tor, because it is not Snapchat.

      • @ZerushOP
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        12 years ago

        Wikipedia

        In 2016, the company changed ownership when a group of Chinese investors purchased the web browser, the consumer business, and the Opera Software ASA brand. On 18 July 2016, Opera Software ASA announced it had sold its browser, privacy and performance apps, and the Opera brand to Golden Brick Capital Private Equity Fund I Limited Partnership, a consortium of Chinese investors.

        The VPN isn’t such, it’s a proxie over the own Opera servers, currently Opera is the less private respecting browser, in Android the browser with the most trackers, even more as Chrome itself https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/com.opera.browser/latest/

        • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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          Almost nobody I know uses Opera. For everyone, Firefox, Chrome, Edge and Brave (for Apple users Safari) are the more familiar browsers. It does not matter much. Opera uses Chromium as base anyway, so it does not matter. The only acceptable Chromium browsers are Ungoogled Chromium and Kiwi.

          • @ZerushOP
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            12 years ago

            I know some who alternatively use the old Opera 12, but certainly no one who uses the current Opera, which only has the name in common with the old one. Technically it is a good browser, but in China privacy is not in the vocabulary and the VPN is directly a fake.

            • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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              -22 years ago

              but in China privacy is not in the vocabulary

              Seems like you let your cat out of the bag. For China, privacy is secondary to prosperity, but they do have a GDPR style data protection law that is better than anything USA has, and actually does not commit the global spying or metadata based murders and overseas genocides that USA does. So that puts China above USA. FOSS community work is global, unless you want to brand it as Western work.

              Privacy is kind of there, just not in the way it is in Anglosphere. Denying comprehending different forms of existence never works, like the pigeon cat story.

                  • @ZerushOP
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                    Because Opera sells data to different conglomerates of companies, like Verizon, which includes Yahoo and Yimg.com (can’t access because Yimg.com is flagged as malicious, by the way), also Hotjar (Website Heatmaps & Behavior Analytics). It also sends information to Microsoft, Alphabet.Inc and Nest (Google advertising companies) as well as doubleclick.net, google-analytics.com, google.com, googletagmanager.com. In other words, half the Internet companies know what you do with Opera, looking over your shoulder, adding that the free “VPN” logs all your browser history. Thanks, no need for this.