• @TheAnonymouseJoker
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    -22 years ago

    Naturally I know the old Opera, it was the first useful browser, until in the end it was sold and distorted by the Chinese

    Incorrect. Opera’s free proxy VPN is the only “Chinese” thing about it, which you can opt to not use. And if you are already comfortable with any USA services and server connections, I do not see a problem with that free Chinese proxy either. I doubt Opera using Chromium as base, like Vivaldi, is Chinese. And I prefer no country, but I would hypothetically prefer China over USA for services, since one of them actively uses collected data in their military drones to kill civilians, according to former CIA director Michael Hayden.

    How to geek article from 2017

    It sounds like a lot of people got caught either practicing opsec badly, or having bad opsec in the first place. None of this has to do with Tor being a bad tool. It does not lack protections, if it is the user making mistakes.

    it is good for browsing on the onion, but many got an unpleasant surprise to do it without before using a VPN and being completely exposed. Surfing the open web with TOR seems to me to be a bit desperate.

    Using Tor with VPN is a common misinformation lore debunked enough times. If you mean people using Tor do not understand what or how to use Tor, then it is not the fault of Tor, once again. It is the fault of user not understanding the seriousness needed to use Tor, because it is not Snapchat.

    • @ZerushOP
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      12 years ago

      Wikipedia

      In 2016, the company changed ownership when a group of Chinese investors purchased the web browser, the consumer business, and the Opera Software ASA brand. On 18 July 2016, Opera Software ASA announced it had sold its browser, privacy and performance apps, and the Opera brand to Golden Brick Capital Private Equity Fund I Limited Partnership, a consortium of Chinese investors.

      The VPN isn’t such, it’s a proxie over the own Opera servers, currently Opera is the less private respecting browser, in Android the browser with the most trackers, even more as Chrome itself https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/com.opera.browser/latest/

      • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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        2 years ago

        Almost nobody I know uses Opera. For everyone, Firefox, Chrome, Edge and Brave (for Apple users Safari) are the more familiar browsers. It does not matter much. Opera uses Chromium as base anyway, so it does not matter. The only acceptable Chromium browsers are Ungoogled Chromium and Kiwi.

        • @ZerushOP
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          12 years ago

          I know some who alternatively use the old Opera 12, but certainly no one who uses the current Opera, which only has the name in common with the old one. Technically it is a good browser, but in China privacy is not in the vocabulary and the VPN is directly a fake.

          • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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            -22 years ago

            but in China privacy is not in the vocabulary

            Seems like you let your cat out of the bag. For China, privacy is secondary to prosperity, but they do have a GDPR style data protection law that is better than anything USA has, and actually does not commit the global spying or metadata based murders and overseas genocides that USA does. So that puts China above USA. FOSS community work is global, unless you want to brand it as Western work.

            Privacy is kind of there, just not in the way it is in Anglosphere. Denying comprehending different forms of existence never works, like the pigeon cat story.

                • @ZerushOP
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                  Because Opera sells data to different conglomerates of companies, like Verizon, which includes Yahoo and Yimg.com (can’t access because Yimg.com is flagged as malicious, by the way), also Hotjar (Website Heatmaps & Behavior Analytics). It also sends information to Microsoft, Alphabet.Inc and Nest (Google advertising companies) as well as doubleclick.net, google-analytics.com, google.com, googletagmanager.com. In other words, half the Internet companies know what you do with Opera, looking over your shoulder, adding that the free “VPN” logs all your browser history. Thanks, no need for this.

                  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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                    -22 years ago

                    And… not many people use Opera. And, why should I trust a closed source browser over something that is fully open source? Your arguments still make no sense, because features are replaceable in better ways, and features are not aiding privacy or security or (partial) anonymity of people.