I’m not sure if this is the correct place to ask this, so if there’s a better community please direct me to it.

I’m making a web app that I plan on hosting. Users will be able to create an account on the website. The only information about the user themself I store is email and an argon2 hash of the password. All the other information stored about a user’s account is specific to and only makes sense in the context of the app.

Now, while I only have one piece of PII, I’d prefer it to be zero. Ideally I’d replace the email with a username for the purpose of uniquely identifying users. However, there’s one problem: I want to be able to send an email to a user if they forget their password so they can reset it. I don’t know if there’s a way to do this without storing their email.

Is there a way to do the mentioned functionality without storing PII? Alternatively, is there another way of handling a user forgetting their password that doesn’t require them to remember anything and doesn’t need PII?

  • @brombek
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    72 years ago

    You could use system like SQRL (https://sqrl.grc.com/pages/what_is_sqrl/) for login that does handle “password” resets without email.

    You could use argon2 to hash the email as well, you ask user for email on “I forgot my password” page, argon2 it and compare (like with password). At this stage you will know the email and that is the same as set during registration, to send the reset code.

    • @CannotSleep420OP
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      22 years ago

      Both of those sound like good suggestions. Thanks!

      • @kevincox
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        52 years ago

        I like the idea of hashing the password reset email. But also consider if it can be made optional. If you are going this route you will need a username anyways (you can’t reasonably let people login with email when it is hashed like a password). In this case some users may prefer to just have no password reset options. Password reset is just a weakness in the security of the system. For most users it is a worthwhile weakness but a lot of users would prefer to be locked out of the account than letting someone gain access.

        Unlike passwords that are hopefully random most user’s emails are “public” and usually low entropy this means that hashing it is good obscurity but it isn’t enough to truly hide it because someone can build a dictionary of possible emails to check.

        • @CannotSleep420OP
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          32 years ago

          You’re approach seems like a good one. I looked into SQRL and while it’s fast and secure, it seems obscure, and asking a user to set up a type of login credential that they’ll use for multiple sites for the rest of their lives seems like a pretty big commitment that I don’t want to have to put my users through.