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  • k_o_t
    1·
    4 years ago

    i just realized that thanks to some particular vegan subreddits i’ve completely lost my ability to detect sarcasm, so if you could, please clarify if this is simply a joke or are you actually serious

      • k_o_t
        31·
        4 years ago

        while writing this comment i went through several stages of emotions: from anger and frustration to calmness and acceptance, scrapping the comment several times

        you seem very adamant on your position, and i would guess that this is because you haven’t been exposed to sufficient evidence on the topic or perhaps maybe because you haven’t thought it through properly, i hope my comment helps with that

        anyway, here are some interesting statistics followed by studies and reports from which they came

        also, i accidentally maxed out the symbols per comment, so it’s going to be separated into two or maybe three comments

        • 2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef.

        • 477 gallons of water are required to produce 1lb. of eggs.

        • 900 gallons of water are needed for 1lb. of cheese.

        • 1,000 gallons of water are required to produce 1 gallon of milk.

        • “Food Facts: How Much Water Does it Take to Produce…?” Water Education Foundation. (open source)

        • “Water Resources: Agricultural and Environmental Issues”. (open source)

        • “Water”. Environmental Working Group. (open source)

        • “The water footprint of food”. Water for Food. (open source)

        • “A Global Assessment of the Water Footprint of Farm Animal Products. Ecosystems.” (open source)

        • “2,500 gallons all wet? Earth Save: Healthy People Healthy Planet.” (open source)

        • “Water footprint of crop and animal products: a comparison.” (Water Footprint Network) (open source)

        • “Water Content of Things: Data Table 19”. The World’s Water. (open source)

        • “Estimation of the Water Requirement for Beef Production in the United States”. Journal of Animal Science. (open source)

        • Livestock or livestock feed occupies 1/3 of the earth’s ice-free land.

        • Livestock covers 45% of the earth’s total land.

        • 1/3 of the planet is desertified, with livestock as the leading driver.

        • Nearly half of the contiguous US is devoted to animal agriculture.

        • “Livestock a major threat to environment. Remedies urgently needed”. FAO Newsroom. (open source)

        • “The Triple Whopper Environmental Impact of Global Meat Production”. Time. (open source)

        • “Livestock and climate change”. Livestock xchange. International Livestock Research Institute. (open source)

        • “Agriculture, Forestry and Other Land Use (AFOLU)”. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. (open source)

        • “The Real Price of Livestock Grazing on America’s Public Lands”. Center for Biological Diversity. (open source)

        • “Major Uses of Land in the United States, 2007”. USDA: Economic Research Service. (open source)

        • “UN launches International Year of Deserts and Desertification”. UN News Centre. (open source)

        • “Saving the World With Livestock? The Allan Savory Approach Examined”. Free from Harm. (open source)

        • “Desertification, Drought Affect One Third of Planet, World’s Poorest People”. United Nations. (open source)

        • “Rearing cattle produces more greenhouse gases than driving cars, UN report warns”. UN News Centre. (open source)

        • “Overgrazing”. Hogan, C Michael. The Encyclopedia of Earth. (open source)

        • Animal agriculture is the leading cause of species extinction, ocean dead zones, water pollution, and habitat destruction.

        • “Biodiversity and Food Choice: A Clarification”. comfortablyunaware: Global Depletion and Food Choice Responsibility. (open source)

        • “Freshwater Depletion: Realities of Choice”. comfortablyunaware: Global Depletion and Food Choice Responsibility. (open source)

        • “What is a dead zone?” National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. (open source)

        • “What Causes Ocean ‘Dead Zones’?” Scientific American. (open source)

        • “Nutrient Pollution: The Problem”. Environmental Protection Agency. (open source)

        • “Livestock’s Long Shadow”. Food and Agriculture Organization of The United Nations. (open source)

        • “Causes of Extinction”. The Encyclopedia of Earth. June 13, 2014. Hogan, C Michael. (open source)

        • “The Habitable Planet. Unit 9: Biodiversity Decline// Section 7: Habitat Loss: Causes and Consequences”. (open source)

        • “How Eating Meat Hurts Wildlife and the Planet”. Take Extinction Off Your Plate: a project of the Center for Biological Diversity. (open source)

        • “Impact of habitat loss on species”. WWF Global. (open source)

        • “Biodiversity conservation: The key is reducing meat consumption”. Science of the Total Environment. Machovina, Brian, et al. (open source)

        • “Risk Management Evaluation for Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations”. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. (open source)

        • “Quantifying Threats to Imperiled Species in the United States”. BioScience. Wilcove, David S, et al. (open source)

        • “Agricultural sustainability and intensive production practices”. Nature 418. Tilman, David, et al. (open source)

        • “Ocean Dead Zones Are Getting Worse Globally Due to Climate Change”. Zielinski, Sarah. Smithsonian.com. (open source)

        • “EPA-supported scientists find average but large Gulf dead zone”. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.(open source)

        • “Ocean Dead Zones Are Getting Worse Globally Due to Climate Change”. Zielinski, Sarah. Smithsonian.com. (open source)

        • k_o_t
          31·
          4 years ago

          • Every minute, 7 million pounds of excrement are produced by animals.

          • A mere 2,500 dairy cows produces as much waste as a city of 411,000.

          • 130 times more animal waste than human waste is produced in the US.

          • In the U.S. livestock produce 116,000 lbs of waste per second.

          • Animals produce enough waste to cover SF, NYC, Tokyo, etc.

          • “Animal Manure Management”. USDA: Natural Resources Conservation Service. RCA Issue Bief #7. December 1995. (open source)

          • “Agricultural Waste Management Field Handbook”. USDA: Natural Resources Conservation Service. Part 651. (open source)

          • “Agricultural Waste Characteristics”. Agricultural Waste Management Field Handbook. USDA. Chapter 4. (open source)

          • “Risk Assessment Evaluation for Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations”. Environmental Protection Agency. 2004. (open source)

          • “Animal Agriculture: Waste Management Practices”. United States General Accounting Office. July 1999. (open source)

          • “Agricultural Waste Management Field Handbook.” (open source)

          • "US Livestock produce 335 million tons of “dry matter” per year. (open source)

          • We could see fishless oceans by 2048.

          • 3/4 of the world’s fisheries are exploited or depleted.

          • 90-100 million tons of fish are pulled from our oceans each year.

          • As many as 2.7 trillion animals are pulled from the ocean each year.

          • For 1 pound of fish, up to 5 pounds of unintended species are caught.

          • As many as 650,000 whales, dolphins and seals are killed every year.

          • 40-50 million sharks killed in fishing lines and nets.

          • “Impacts of Biodiversity Loss on Ocean Ecosystem Services”. Science. Vol 314. 3 November 2006. Worm, Boris, et al. (open source)

          • “Seafood May Be Gone by 2048, Study Says”. National Geographic News. Roach, John. November 2, 2006 (open source)

          • “Still Waters: The Global Fish Crisis”. National Geographic. Montaigne, Fen. (open source)

          • “World Review of Fisheries and Aquaculture: Part 1”. United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (open source)

          • “Estimating the Number of Fish Caught in Global Fishing Each Year”. July 2010. Mood, A & Brooke, P. (open source)

          • “Fish count estimates”. Fishcount.org.uk (open source)

          • “Discard and bycatch in Shrimp trawl fisheries”. FAO: Fisheries and Aquaculture Department (open source)

          • “Wasted Catch: Unsolved Problems in U.S. Fisheries”. Oceana. March 2014. Keledjian, Amanda, et al. (open source)

          • “America’s nine most wasteful fisheries named”. The Guardian. 20 March 2014. Goldenberg, Suzanne. (open source)

          • “Shark Fin Trade Myths and Truths: BYCATCH”. Shark Savers (open source)

          • “Sharks at Risk”. Animal Welfare Institute (open source)

          • “100 Million Sharks Killed Every Year, Study Show on Eve of International Conference on Shark Protection”. National Geographic. (open source)

          • “Global catches, exploitation rates, and rebuilding options for sharks”. Marine Policy. (open source)

          • Animal agriculture is responsible for up to 91% of Amazon destruction.

          • 1-2 acres of rainforest are cleared every second.

          • Leading cause of rainforest destruction is livestock and feedcrops.

          • Up to 137 plant, animal and insect species are lost every day

          • 136 million rainforest acres cleared for animal agriculture.

          • “Causes of Deforestation of the Brazilian Amazon”. World Bank Working Paper. Margulis, Sergio. (open source)

          • “Amazon Deforestation, Once Tames, Comes Roaring Back”. Tabuchi, Hiroko, Rigny, Claire & White, Jeremy. New York Times. (open source)

          • “The Ultimate Mystery Meat: Exposing the Secrets Behind Burger King and Global Meat Production”. Mighty Earth. (open source)

          • “Measuring the Daily Destruction of the World’s Rainforests”. Scientific American. (open source)

          • “10 Rainforest Facts for 2017”. Mongabay.com. January, 2017. Butler, Rhett. (open source)

          • “Keeping Options Alive: The Scientific Basis for Conserving Biodiveristy”. World Resources Institute. (open source)

          • “Tropical Deforestation”. National Aeronautics and Space Administration: Facts (open source)

          • “Cattle Ranching’s Impact on the Rainforest”. Mongabay.com. July 2012.Butler, Rhett. (open source)

          • “Cattle Ranching in the Amazon Rainforest”. UN: Food and Agriculture Oragnization. Veiga, J.B., et al. (open source)

          • “The Disappearing Rainforests”. Save the Amazon.org. (open source)

          • “Protect nature for world economic security, warns UN biodiversity chief”. Vidal, John. The Guardian. (open source)

          • “Amazon Destruction”. Mongabay.com. January 2017. Butler, Rhett. (open source)

          • “Brazilian beef giant announces moratorium on rainforest beef”. Butler, Rhett A. Mongabay. August 2009. (open source)

          • k_o_t
            31·
            4 years ago

            • 80% of antibiotic sold in the US are for livestock.

            • World population in 1812: 1 billion; 1912: 1.5 billion; 2012: 7 billion.

            • More than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

            • Cows drink 45 billion gallons of water & eat 135 billion pounds a day.

            • We are currently growing enough food to feed 10 billion people.

            • “New FDA Number’s Reveal Food Animals Consume Lion’s Share of Antibiotics”. Center for a livable future. December 2010 (open source)

            • “Summary Report on Antimicrobials Sold or Distributed for Use in Food-Producing Animals”. Dept. of Health & Human Services. (open source)

            • “2015 in Review: Animal Antibiotics”. Food Safety News. December 2015. Zuraw, Lydia. (open source)

            • “Human Numbers Through Time”. Nova (open source)

            • “Current World Population”. Worldometers (open source)

            • “Factory Farms”. A Well Fed World (open source)

            • “Strategic Plan 2013-2017: For Kinder, Fairer Farming Worldwide”. Compassion in World Farming (open source)

            • “Animals Slaughtered”. Animals Deserve Absolute Protection Today and Tomorrow (open source)

            • “Based on rough averages of 30 gallons of water & 100 lbs. of food per day x of cows 1.468 billion cows”. (open source)

            • "We Already Grow Enough Food for 10 Billion People…and Still Can’t End Hunger”. Common Dreams: Breaking News & Views. (open source)

            • “U.S. could feed 800 million people with grain that livestock eat, Cornell ecologist advises animal scientists”. Cornell Chronicle. (open source)

            • “Redefining agricultural yields: form tonnes to people nourished per acre”. Environmental Research. (open source)

            • 82% of starving children live in countries where food is fed to animals, and eaten by other countries.

            • 1.5 acres can produce 37,000 pounds of plant-based food, 1.5 acres can produce only 375 pounds of animal-based food.

            • A person who follows a vegan diet produces the equivalent of 50% less carbon dioxide.

            • Each day, a person who eats a vegan diet saves 1,100 gallons of water, 45 pounds of grain, 30 sq ft of forested land, 20 lbs CO2 equivalent, and one animal’s life.

            • Ten thousand years ago, 99% of biomass (i.e. zoomass) was wild animals. Today, humans and the animals that we

            • Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming

            • “The World Hunger-Food Choice Connection: A Summary”. Comfortably Unaware Blog. August 2012. Oppenlander, Dr. Richard. (open source)

            • “Improving Child Nutrition: The achievable imperative for global progress”. UNICEF. (open source)

            • “Livestock production index”. The World Bank. (open source)

            • “Global livestock production systems”. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. (open source)

            • “Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work.” Oppenlander, Richard A. (open source)

            • “Grass-fed and Organic Beef: Production Costs and Breakeven Market Prices, 2008-2009”. Schwab, Denise, et al. (open source)

            • “The carbon foodprint of five diets compared”. Shrink That Footprint (open source)

            • “Dietary greenhouse-gas emissions of meat-eaters, fish-eaters, vegetarians and vegans in the UK”. Scarborough, Peter, et al. (open source)

            • “Facts on Animal Farming and the Environment”. One Green Planet. (open source)

            • “Sustainability of meat-based and plant-based diets and the environment”. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. (open source)

            • “The Bomb is Still Ticking…”. Post growth: From bigger towards better. Ede, Sharon. (open source)

            • “Harvesting the Biosphere: The Human Impact”. Smil, Vaclav. (open source)

            • “Population and Development Review 37” (613-636 (December 2011). (open source)

            • “Livestock’ Long Shadow: environmental issues and options”. FAO. Rome. (open source)

            • “Emissions of Greenhouse Gases in the United States”. U.S. Energy Information Administration. (open source)

            if you still think that animal agriculture is not a monumental threat to the environment and veganism is not the perfect solution for that then… …i honestly don’t know what could help you at this point, maybe some b12 bruh