Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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    2 days ago

    The truth is out now.

    What truth? Who talks like this and thinks it means something?

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      2 days ago

      For the past week the people of China and the United States, as well as other countries have been comparing notes. Debunking propaganda on both sides. Realizing that much of what we’ve all been told for years/decades, has been lies.

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          For starters, that the Uyghur genocide is yet another piece of atrocity propaganda from the US. We know what a genocide looks like and how it’s impossible to hide in the modern world, as Gaza showed.

          Blurry satellite pictures of buildings and a German fascist swearing it for ten pages (financed by Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin) isn’t proof.

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              21 hours ago

              Because there are some functional governments in the world that don’t allow US misinformation to spread without challenge.

              They also suppress Falun Gong, are you telling me that’s in and of itself proof that their cultist shit is one hundred percent true? If so tell me so I can laugh my ass off

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                10 hours ago

                So according to you it’s the job of a functional government to select which topics are missinformation and can be seen or not by it’s citizens?

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              Lmao. Mehdi Hasan is an opportunist. You can check Uyghurs living in China rather than ones deliberately selected by a known ally of the US, Qatar. Extraordinary claims require proof and I haven’t seen anything other than hearsay, which is the first weapon of the CIA as with Saddam’s WMDs and Park Yeonmi’s claims of the DPRK making people pull trains by hand lmao.

              If you have any evidence that isn’t “I swear they do it”, I’ll be waiting. Though not holding my breath.

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                Oh believe me I have. Medhi Hasan is just a quick easy link to see if you were being genuine or not. Not. One of my favorite YouTubers lived in shenzhen. She doesn’t post anymore. Because she and her partner who happens to be a trans Uyghur we’re physically threatened and called out by the government for mild criticisms. Which is extremely sad since she was very good representation for people in China in general. And would have shown that the government of China isn’t as bigoted and racist as it obviously is had they simply not been so insecure that they couldn’t take such mild criticism.

                Oh by the way congratulations on your fallacy. Attacking the messenger. You didn’t refute anything from the segment. I mean I would have been surprised. Let me tell you floored if you had. But we know better than that.

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                  16 hours ago

                  Easy to make claims, I’m still waiting for a single lick of evidence tho.

                  That segment had a whole lot of claims, again, with no evidence, so how can I refute what hasn’t been proven? It’s refuted by default.

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                    16 hours ago

                    It’s literally in a video you refused to watch. Actual families confronting a CCP government official about the imprisonment of their loved ones. Though I’m sure you will just hand wave that all away and claim they were manufactured by the cia. Because you’re not here debating anything in good faith.

                    And Hell while we’re at it. Since you chuckleheads are blocked by the China you defend so much. Go read up on Naomi Wu she was practically an unofficial brand ambassador for creality in Shenzhen. A truly fascinating and wonderful person with a real passion for technology. And creativity. Who made the sin of talking about her life. And how the CCPs bone headed policies had impacted her. My words not hers. She spoke very differentially and sparingly about the idiotic policies. Many of which even the CCP have distance themselves from such as the one child policy. But they are so insecure and fragile that her even talking about her early childhood was too much for them to take.

                    The true irony is that she is the very sort of person they should be promoting, elevating to prove that they changed from those days and those policies. That they were the sort of people leninists always defend them as. Funny they didn’t. Instead threatening her and her loved ones.

                    I tend not to bring her up by name. Because she is not an activist and just wants to try to live her life. And I respect that. But it’s relatively safe here as I said since you all are blocked in China. It likely won’t get back in a negative way. And I’m sure you’ll just hand wave it away as somehow being more CIA psyops. Sounding as crazy as the local magats conspiracy theories.