It’s literally in a video you refused to watch. Actual families confronting a CCP government official about the imprisonment of their loved ones. Though I’m sure you will just hand wave that all away and claim they were manufactured by the cia. Because you’re not here debating anything in good faith.
And Hell while we’re at it. Since you chuckleheads are blocked by the China you defend so much. Go read up on Naomi Wu she was practically an unofficial brand ambassador for creality in Shenzhen. A truly fascinating and wonderful person with a real passion for technology. And creativity. Who made the sin of talking about her life. And how the CCPs bone headed policies had impacted her. My words not hers. She spoke very differentially and sparingly about the idiotic policies. Many of which even the CCP have distance themselves from such as the one child policy. But they are so insecure and fragile that her even talking about her early childhood was too much for them to take.
The true irony is that she is the very sort of person they should be promoting, elevating to prove that they changed from those days and those policies. That they were the sort of people leninists always defend them as. Funny they didn’t. Instead threatening her and her loved ones.
I tend not to bring her up by name. Because she is not an activist and just wants to try to live her life. And I respect that. But it’s relatively safe here as I said since you all are blocked in China. It likely won’t get back in a negative way. And I’m sure you’ll just hand wave it away as somehow being more CIA psyops. Sounding as crazy as the local magats conspiracy theories.
They literally posted a video with actual victims confronting the government. And told the story of another one in particular. Your video has some guy not personally impacted by any of this talking about what he thinks he saw somewhere.
And what’s with the projection? You’re the one making claims but not actually providing any real evidence. Maybe it’s not as bad as the United States says. But it certainly isn’t like the Chinese government says it is either.
Again, a video with claims isn’t evidence. If you wanted me to prove the genocide in Gaza, Id have hundreds of videos to show it happening. If you wanted me to prove the Abu Ghraib black sites and the Guantanamo Bay tortures, I’d have plenty to show you as well.
People claiming it in public isn’t evidence. If there’s an Uyghur genocide, I’d like to see a single bit of incontrovertible evidence.
Sad. You can’t address what was said. You don’t even have an interest in looking into it. Hypocritically squealing about propaganda. While spouting it. There’s plenty to criticize the United States on. A lot of the same things you can criticize China on. Well not you. People who thank you critically and engage in good faith however.
I keep asking for evidence and you keep pontificating around the fact that all you have is claims lmao. Sorry for not letting you deflect from the fact that you don’t have evidence.
I didn’t make those claims. Sterilization et all. You debunked nothing. Yes some are making fantastic claims with no proof. All I did was state that China was imprisoning many and oppressing them along with other groups. And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted. It’s a hypocritical and tone deaf behavior. But also unsurprising.
And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted.
You didn’t provide links; you provided one link, to Hasan’s hatchet job, which doesn’t even interview any supposed Uyghur victims. But even if you had, testimonies are not hard evidence, as we’ve seen from Yeonmi Park and Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ. The testimonies of “defectors” from US “enemy” states often suss: What’s the deal with defectors?
Why would I throw more Pearls Before swine with a clown shoes bad faith response like that? Your participating in a fallacy again. Attacking the messenger. Not what was said. And funny his reporting was good enough for everyone when he was calling out the United States. Just suddenly he loses all credibility when it’s your team. Odd how that works lol.
And quite literally in the video they address what you say. The lack of victims crying out doesn’t mean there’s no victims. China won’t let them make a statement or talk to the public. That’s literally the problem. And you know it.
But I’m going to handle you the same way I handle bad faith economic liberals. Bye Felecia!
Lmao you won’t provide actual proof because we ask for proof before believing you outright?
Hasan wasn’t the only one criticizing the US and plenty of people only agreed with him because, say it with me: THERE WAS EVIDENCE ON HIS SIDE. I know it might be hard for some of y’all but I don’t consider proof to be when somebody I like says something. A lot of us were saying he and others like middle east eye were laundering their reputations by siding with Gaza to further the US empire’s agenda on other issues, and they’ve proven it.
China won’t let them make a statement or talk to the public. That’s literally the problem
Oh, I guess the only reason we learned about Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and Pinochet’s stadium massacres is how much they amplified the voices of the people they were torturing. No proof would have been available otherwise.
If you have time to write anime villain speeches you have time to do some actual reading, get over yourself.
Easy to make claims, I’m still waiting for a single lick of evidence tho.
That segment had a whole lot of claims, again, with no evidence, so how can I refute what hasn’t been proven? It’s refuted by default.
It’s literally in a video you refused to watch. Actual families confronting a CCP government official about the imprisonment of their loved ones. Though I’m sure you will just hand wave that all away and claim they were manufactured by the cia. Because you’re not here debating anything in good faith.
And Hell while we’re at it. Since you chuckleheads are blocked by the China you defend so much. Go read up on Naomi Wu she was practically an unofficial brand ambassador for creality in Shenzhen. A truly fascinating and wonderful person with a real passion for technology. And creativity. Who made the sin of talking about her life. And how the CCPs bone headed policies had impacted her. My words not hers. She spoke very differentially and sparingly about the idiotic policies. Many of which even the CCP have distance themselves from such as the one child policy. But they are so insecure and fragile that her even talking about her early childhood was too much for them to take.
The true irony is that she is the very sort of person they should be promoting, elevating to prove that they changed from those days and those policies. That they were the sort of people leninists always defend them as. Funny they didn’t. Instead threatening her and her loved ones.
I tend not to bring her up by name. Because she is not an activist and just wants to try to live her life. And I respect that. But it’s relatively safe here as I said since you all are blocked in China. It likely won’t get back in a negative way. And I’m sure you’ll just hand wave it away as somehow being more CIA psyops. Sounding as crazy as the local magats conspiracy theories.
Again, this is not the first time atrocity propaganda is leveled at a government that the US doesn’t like. Look at the Nayirah testimony.
A claim is not evidence, regardless of who makes it or at what forum they do it. Evidence is evidence.
Do you have it, or not? Because it seems like you don’t.
They literally posted a video with actual victims confronting the government. And told the story of another one in particular. Your video has some guy not personally impacted by any of this talking about what he thinks he saw somewhere.
And what’s with the projection? You’re the one making claims but not actually providing any real evidence. Maybe it’s not as bad as the United States says. But it certainly isn’t like the Chinese government says it is either.
What are the time stamps of actual Uyghur victims speaking? Because if they’re there, I must have missed them.
Again, a video with claims isn’t evidence. If you wanted me to prove the genocide in Gaza, Id have hundreds of videos to show it happening. If you wanted me to prove the Abu Ghraib black sites and the Guantanamo Bay tortures, I’d have plenty to show you as well.
People claiming it in public isn’t evidence. If there’s an Uyghur genocide, I’d like to see a single bit of incontrovertible evidence.
Sad. You can’t address what was said. You don’t even have an interest in looking into it. Hypocritically squealing about propaganda. While spouting it. There’s plenty to criticize the United States on. A lot of the same things you can criticize China on. Well not you. People who thank you critically and engage in good faith however.
I keep asking for evidence and you keep pontificating around the fact that all you have is claims lmao. Sorry for not letting you deflect from the fact that you don’t have evidence.
The US propaganda machine’s “Uyghur genocide” psyop has been debunked six ways to Sunday already.
I didn’t make those claims. Sterilization et all. You debunked nothing. Yes some are making fantastic claims with no proof. All I did was state that China was imprisoning many and oppressing them along with other groups. And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted. It’s a hypocritical and tone deaf behavior. But also unsurprising.
Oh I see, the only people still here are you, me, and two of your alt accounts 😂 Admins can see votes, BTW.
Man that’s sad lmao
You didn’t provide links; you provided one link, to Hasan’s hatchet job, which doesn’t even interview any supposed Uyghur victims. But even if you had, testimonies are not hard evidence, as we’ve seen from Yeonmi Park and Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ. The testimonies of “defectors” from US “enemy” states often suss: What’s the deal with defectors?
Why would I throw more Pearls Before swine with a clown shoes bad faith response like that? Your participating in a fallacy again. Attacking the messenger. Not what was said. And funny his reporting was good enough for everyone when he was calling out the United States. Just suddenly he loses all credibility when it’s your team. Odd how that works lol.
And quite literally in the video they address what you say. The lack of victims crying out doesn’t mean there’s no victims. China won’t let them make a statement or talk to the public. That’s literally the problem. And you know it.
But I’m going to handle you the same way I handle bad faith economic liberals. Bye Felecia!
I don’t know why you put so much effort into your bullshit when no one reads deeply buried comments in a two day old post 🤷
Lmao you won’t provide actual proof because we ask for proof before believing you outright?
Hasan wasn’t the only one criticizing the US and plenty of people only agreed with him because, say it with me: THERE WAS EVIDENCE ON HIS SIDE. I know it might be hard for some of y’all but I don’t consider proof to be when somebody I like says something. A lot of us were saying he and others like middle east eye were laundering their reputations by siding with Gaza to further the US empire’s agenda on other issues, and they’ve proven it.
Oh, I guess the only reason we learned about Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and Pinochet’s stadium massacres is how much they amplified the voices of the people they were torturing. No proof would have been available otherwise.
If you have time to write anime villain speeches you have time to do some actual reading, get over yourself.
You can’t disprove what I said, because I deliberately refuse to make a coherent claim!
Check and mate tankies