Seriously i have zero idea what is going on with bluesky. I never used it. Why are people saying it’s centralised? I also heard that a lot of people are joining it.

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    Bluesky is a platform by and for the most racist liberals.

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        Try criticizing liberal forms of racism and see how well it goes for you.

        Try watching sometime merely being Palestinian and see how it goes for them.

        Try looking into who funds and runs the platform.

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          Seriously all the posters I see and follow are far left and extremely pro-palestinian and are quite quick to criticize liberals, on multiple topics. Maybe you just followed a bunch of the wrong people and decided that was everybody.

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            Pro-Palestinian or by people who are in Palestine? Because Bluesky has beeen censoring the latter.

            I viewed the public trending section and listed some of the racism there in another comment.

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                And what do they say about the people getting banned for fundraising?

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                  Most of the Palestinian posts I see are fundraising posts. Seriously it seems like you’re just out there looking for what you want to complain about. There’s plenty of racism and bigotry on the fediverse if you go looking for it.

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                    Bluesky was banning people en masse for doing that a couple weeks ago. I know some of the Palestinians that were banned.

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          A large portion of my TL on Bluesky is people fundraising for specific Palestinian families. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You see what you follow

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            I’m not a liberal — I’m a leftist — and I consider a Tankie to be someone who gets so wrapped up in hating the U.S. or West in general that they start defending the likes of Stalin and others who used a facade of Marx/Lenin to consolidate power and do horrible things. Like, you do not, under any circumstances, have to hand it to Stalin.

            Incidentally, here’s Thomas the Tankie Engine:

            I made that for a shitpost in 5 minutes using Midjourney so don’t judge all the obvious A.I. flaws or that I used machine learning. I’d pay a real artist if it wasn’t a throwaway bit.

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              I’m not a liberal — I’m a leftist

              That is what embarrassed liberals call themselves.

              and I consider a Tankie to be someone who gets so wrapped up in hating the U.S. or West in general that they start defending the likes of Stalin and others who used a facade of Marx/Lenin to consolidate power and do horrible things. Like, you do not, under any circumstances, have to hand it to Stalin.

              Not under any circumstances? What about ending The Holocaust and The Third Reich? There’s a reason Western anticommunism is inextricable from fascism.

              By usage, a “tankie” is just anyone that defends an entity that a liberal wants to attack, generally in line with the Western imperialist consensus. Hell, it was defined originally by Trots to attack a decision by Kruschev, someone whose (largely fabricated) anti-Stalin statements defined much of the Western propaganda against him, likely including much of what you’re thinking of. It is very funny to see it used against Stalin. To honor the Trot tradition you should call such people (and maybe everything you don’t like) Stalinists!

              [AI things]

              Okay bud

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      Let me see the first ten posts in my feed. (I haven’t opened today so let’s see…)

      God saying why is radical left an insult?

      Space view with a good picture of Pluto.

      God talking about centrists and leftists

      More space pictures

      Someone talking about a free game on stream

      Someone talking about how rpg fans love to insist pokemon isn’t rpg

      Horror video game protagonist coming across ammo, yeah that isn’t ominous.

      Some new video games called Anton

      We asked A.I. to generate a peak Seahawks game, these were the results.

      And

      A picture of the helix nebula.

      Yup lots of racism and traits.

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        Somewhat off topic what you’re discussing but I’ve been checking the bsky feed anonymously every day or two and a lot of those recent space pictures are AI. Didn’t see those a week ago, seems to be something new.

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        Are you familiar with what liberal racism looks like?

        Anonymously browsing the feed I rapidly came upon these posts:

        Bluesky is known in left circles for censoring Palestinian accounts and allowing liberal Zionism.

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          You’re I guess looking at a feed of everything there is with no anchor to the correct side of politics? Try that with ActivityPub and just ingest the entire ecosystem with no home instance or blocklist and you’ll get lots of this.

          But I think you are right that the Bluesky PDS will not refuse to host you for saying things along the lines of “The US should continue to sell all kinds of weapons to Israel”, whereas a lot of Mastodon instances might be expected to kick you off for expressing this stubbornly common opinion.

          But I’m not sure it’s quite fair to expect a public service to share exactly the correct Overton window that one has oneself. That sort of enforcement on Bluesky is meant to be at the level of the custom moderation service/labeler, not at the data storage layer, since users more or less are meant to control that themselves.

          And if you pick a good labeler it will enforce that only the correct people are allowed in your view.

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            You’re I guess looking at a feed of everything there is with no anchor to the correct side of politics? Try that with ActivityPub and just ingest the entire ecosystem with no home instance or blocklist and you’ll get lots of this.

            I mean, it is trending/rising stuff that popped up organically. And it is all very much liberal. Run of the mill liberal racism we have all seen before, though it is often not recognized as such becauae it is not presented or reacted to as if it is.

            Combine this with the censorship of Palestinians and the people who run and fund the platform and you arrive at my conclusion. If Bluesky gets critical mass it will be even worse than Twitter was before Musk bought it.

            But I think you are right that the Bluesky PDS will not refuse to host you for saying things along the lines of “The US should continue to sell all kinds of weapons to Israel”, whereas a lot of Mastodon instances might be expected to kick you off for expressing this stubbornly common opinion.

            Well yes but my examples are a more naked form of racism beyond the ubiquitous support for imperialism - including their supported settler colonial projects - inherent to liberalism.

            But I’m not sure it’s quite fair to expect a public service to share exactly the correct Overton window that one has oneself.

            I don’t have an Overton Window. I have simply described the site as what it is.

            That sort of enforcement on Bluesky is meant to be at the level of the custom moderation service/labeler, not at the data storage layer, since users more or less are meant to control that themselves.

            I mean they ban accounts so regardless of what they say they are in the business of moderation and censorship.